Today's Greyhounds

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Fugazi
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Atho55 wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 8:36 am
These have been derived from Memphis`s latest data. Have tried to find the fastest runners at Track/Dist/Grade when you combine those 3 bits of info into a single text string all based upon the last race. It`s a list of runner names only unfortunately. Potential BACK candidates.

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Backing purely on those stats probably would not work long term - the odds will already factor that in, its a little too simplistic. The key is finding reasons those greyhounds WONT be the true favourite that are not obvious. Though I think that may already be what you are suggesting as I can see on the bookies that the greyhound 'long shot' is the outsider. Is your list of backs based on none favourites that are showing better than expected stats?

I ran my own prediction model today, and filtered to dogs that all ran at the same grade in their previous race in an attempt to simplify the variables that may increase error in my model.

From my filtered list, I found from your list Long Shot is ranked 6th with my model. Considering Memphis input, your list, and my model I would be looking to trade the dog ''long shot'' (how ironic). I use the rank of dogs from my model rather than the predicted odds to inform my trading as I find the odds can be a little wild at times.

I'm currently trying to think of a way to collaborate with Memphis in a mutually beneficial way but have not had the time to really test my model over a large sample and then tie this in with what Memphis produces. I've considered sharing my model predictions daily and letting the members figure out strategies. But the problem is that A) my output is not the most user friendly in its current format and B) That may create user dependency should I decide I no longer wish to share my output.

Attached are my full predictions and filtered list for the day. Personally would recommend the filtered list as my full raw list is a bit of a pain to manage and doesn't like it when there are time trials as previous grade and a few other random bugs with the odds.

Heres a snippet from my sheet for the race with long shot in. Name, grade of previous race, predicted true odds (big pinch of salt) and rank based on odds. Bookmakers currently have Long shot at odds 11.0 so may be some trading potential.

SWIFT GIDDY 'OR3' 3.75 Rank 1
LONG SHOT 'OR3' 14.55 Rank 6
BLUE RANGE 'OR3' 3.99 Rank 3
RAZLDAZL BARKLEY 'OR3' 14.16 Rank 5
HEATHLAWN WILLOW'OR3' 12.01 Rank 4
MAKEIT MAGICAL 'OR3' 3.84 Rank 2
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got both lists on tests will report findings later
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 10:54 am
got both lists on tests will report findings later
Brilliant thank you.
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Hepburn wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 3:58 pm
ilovepizza82 wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 6:27 am
MemphisFlash wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:03 am


No Problem Michael Angelo
Hi there.
Still using Betbotpro or is it just Bet Angel these days ?
How many working systems on betbot have you got ? Asking coz Im not exactly convinced there is anything there to make money in terms of straight/plain bets, long term.
Search youtube and ye shall find: Dutch greyhounds
Dutching wont make you any money long term, unless you back with a value but then how can you tell whether there is any value or not ? You would have to be able to work out the true odds.
If you back test it you will see its just not worth it. The only true way to make any money is just to trade them like you would normally do pre-off horses. There is no other way.
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from the data contained in my sheet here are slow and fast lists.

2.5% faster than trap average (potential Back)
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10% slower than trap average (Potential Lay)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 11:11 pm
Hortic07 wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 10:39 pm
MemphisFlash wrote:
Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:44 pm
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Just out of interest why are you sharing this? I'm all up for crowing about success, or are you offering the chance to get in on your automation?
Tom is showing you what’s possible with allot of time, dedication and hard work.

He has given much back to the forum, one way or another.

But NO, he and others are not going to give you the “do abcdefg” to print money. It’s extremely difficult to profit on the BF markets, especially on the greyhounds.
Ah I see. Well i'm all up for sharing success stories. I may not be as profitable as Tom but im up £807.64 over the last 12 days since i started trading Greyhounds. GLA.
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Somehow managed to sneak in a £1 lay of long shot at odds of 10.0

It hit 65.0 at one point 🤯🤯
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ok. results of atho and fugazi lists

Fugazi (Lay Selections)

11 selections, losses 11, profit £110 for a ten pound stake

Atho (Back Selections)

20 selections, 4 wins, profit £9.04 for £10 stake

Point of note:_
Atho managed to find a 10/1 winner (Swift Sapid - 17.49 Crayford)
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Fugazi
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MemphisFlash wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 10:50 pm
ok. results of atho and fugazi lists

Fugazi (Lay Selections)

11 selections, losses 11, profit £110 for a ten pound stake

Atho (Back Selections)

20 selections, 4 wins, profit £9.04 for £10 stake
Thank you for running that. I best get brain storming.

Tiny sample mind, wouldnt take much to wipe my profit there.
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Thanks for doing that Memphis although running the picks v the BF Promo it looks like I had 5 winners.
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today's data sheet link
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AvO43z5ZDW4AyH_fony ... r?e=Kd9OhH

fast and slow list for today

2.5% faster than average track time https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvO43z5ZDW4AyS-Y4j5 ... k?e=isfaXC
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10% slower than average track time https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvO43z5ZDW4AyTCYluo ... k?e=AGlDOg
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Atho55 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 7:39 am
Thanks for doing that Memphis although running the picks v the BF Promo it looks like I had 5 winners.

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maybe my bet angel settings didn't get the fifth one in.
nice spreadsheet colours by the way. :)
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My picks for today
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Atho55 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 10:45 am
My picks for today

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Cant see the names, can anyone ?

EDIT: Thx for fixing the screenshot.
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today's data sheet link for 07.05.2024
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AvO43z5ZDW4AyH_fony ... r?e=n9L33Q

fast and slow list for today https://1drv.ms/u/s!AvO43z5ZDW4AyS-Y4j5 ... k?e=YeWsOE
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No 10% slower than average dogs met criteria.

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