Today's Greyhounds

[Fugazi]

something i work on value bet system. £2 stake 2600 bets £2200 profit. yield% 48%

Good sample size. Impressive.

Using a model?

[grimm]

something i work on value bet system. £2 stake 2600 bets £2200 profit. yield% 48%

Good sample size. Impressive.

Using a model?

yes its a model simple one though. track trainer win%. few other things like spilt, time.

[Fugazi]

something i work on value bet system. £2 stake 2600 bets £2200 profit. yield% 48%

Good sample size. Impressive.

Using a model?

yes its a model simple one though. track trainer win%. few other things like spilt, time.

Interesting, I posted a model a while ago but was missing trainer as it was too granular for the model to handle. Too many combinations as I had every greyhound ever in the model

[firlandsfarm]

something i work on value bet system. £2 stake 2600 bets £2200 profit. yield% 48%

OK, bit of a 'blind' question as I don't have any details but do you know why there were flat periods at the start and end of the graph?

[grimm]

something i work on value bet system. £2 stake 2600 bets £2200 profit. yield% 48%

OK, bit of a 'blind' question as I don't have any details but do you know why there were flat periods at the start and end of the graph?

If system generated 20 bets a day and only won 2 it's equal the day. Or tiny loss or profit. Recently I had 29 loss in a row. But it's then 3 winner cover all loss.

[andy28]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

[Fugazi]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

Don't forget the outrageous comission on AUS horses!

[andy28]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

Don't forget the outrageous comission on AUS horses!

Exactly through Winter had I not had to pay commission it would have made a few $$ but 7% screwed it up, but it is starting to come back.

[grimm]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

My horse strategy did very very good last two months as compared to dogs. I can change horse quickly then dogs as it's limited data. Value betting/ strategy is the same think. We all look to find better value to make profit. When I checked my recent results I was shocked my 10 dogs was placed out of 30. Something we can't control.

[wearthefoxhat]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

My horse strategy did very very good last two months as compared to dogs. I can change horse quickly then dogs as it's limited data. Value betting/ strategy is the same think. We all look to find better value to make profit. When I checked my recent results I was shocked my 10 dogs was placed out of 30. Something we can't control.

Well done with your results, especially with the value approach.

The greyhound market (around 2 million a day) has held up well (for volume) when compared to horse racing (declining) albeit around 7 million a day. Reckon there will still be niche greyhound tracks that continue to exist around the UK. A world pool, accessing the australian/US market would ideally ensure its survival.

Re-Horse Racing, In my view, there is still a future in trading/betting, at least for the next 20 years or so. By then, I reckon access, UK to US markets and vice-versa, will have bedded in, along with other countries pitching in. The Tote world pools could expand, and the tote as an entity, will likely grow, which will be good for horse race funding and its' future going forward.

The black market has soaked up much of the horse race volumes and the bigger bettors, that also like betting on other sports ie: football/cricket...etc,

[grimm]

I have a strategy that has done the exact same thing as yours. Mine is on Aust horses and in the Spring/Autumn it is strong, Winter it loses, Summer it makes money but not much. Start of Spring and it is coming back and doing nicely.

I am paper trading the Uk with the same strategy and it is similar in that Winter it failed quite badly, Summer it did very well, Spring it is continuing to do well, Autumn it flat lined , I didn't run it over Winter so can't tell how it would have performed. There seems to be a correlation with when the better horses are running.

It isn't a trading strategy it is value betting so I am thinking weaker horse are more inconsistent, or at least that's what I am thinking

My horse strategy did very very good last two months as compared to dogs. I can change horse quickly then dogs as it's limited data. Value betting/ strategy is the same think. We all look to find better value to make profit. When I checked my recent results I was shocked my 10 dogs was placed out of 30. Something we can't control.

Well done with your results, especially with the value approach.

The greyhound market (around 2 million a day) has held up well (for volume) when compared to horse racing (declining) albeit around 7 million a day. Reckon there will still be niche greyhound tracks that continue to exist around the UK. A world pool, accessing the australian/US market would ideally ensure its survival.

Re-Horse Racing, In my view, there is still a future in trading/betting, at least for the next 20 years or so. By then, I reckon access, UK to US markets and vice-versa, will have bedded in, along with other countries pitching in. The Tote world pools could expand, and the tote as an entity, will likely grow, which will be good for horse race funding and its' future going forward.

The black market has soaked up much of the horse race volumes and the bigger bettors, that also like betting on other sports ie: football/cricket...etc,

Any idea where do I get US or Aus horse race data for cheaper or free even. Thanks for insight

[wearthefoxhat]

My horse strategy did very very good last two months as compared to dogs. I can change horse quickly then dogs as it's limited data. Value betting/ strategy is the same think. We all look to find better value to make profit. When I checked my recent results I was shocked my 10 dogs was placed out of 30. Something we can't control.

Well done with your results, especially with the value approach.

The greyhound market (around 2 million a day) has held up well (for volume) when compared to horse racing (declining) albeit around 7 million a day. Reckon there will still be niche greyhound tracks that continue to exist around the UK. A world pool, accessing the australian/US market would ideally ensure its survival.

Re-Horse Racing, In my view, there is still a future in trading/betting, at least for the next 20 years or so. By then, I reckon access, UK to US markets and vice-versa, will have bedded in, along with other countries pitching in. The Tote world pools could expand, and the tote as an entity, will likely grow, which will be good for horse race funding and its' future going forward.

The black market has soaked up much of the horse race volumes and the bigger bettors, that also like betting on other sports ie: football/cricket...etc,

Any idea where do I get US or Aus horse race data for cheaper or free even. Thanks for insight

Sorry, unsure with that one.