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greenmark
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When the stewards look at the data around Max 'braketesting' Lewis he could be in big trouble.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:41 pm
When the stewards look at the data around Max 'braketesting' Lewis he could be in big trouble.
IF he brake tested him... the data will be interesting

He seemed to slow down to let him past well in advance. I think the Merc team were slow to relay the info to Lewis which is why there was a blame game on the radio between Mercedes and the race director
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i cant believe the word 'braketesting' is even being thrown around.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:41 pm
When the stewards look at the data around Max 'braketesting' Lewis he could be in big trouble.
IF he brake tested him... the data will be interesting

He seemed to slow down to let him past well in advance. I think the Merc team were slow to relay the info to Lewis which is why there was a blame game on the radio between Mercedes and the race director
EDIT: Hamilton just said in the post race interview that he was told AFTER he hit Verstappen that he was letting him through so that will probably be the end of the penalties
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And it just gets better and better.

Some lovely swings too!
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:52 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:50 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:41 pm
When the stewards look at the data around Max 'braketesting' Lewis he could be in big trouble.
IF he brake tested him... the data will be interesting

He seemed to slow down to let him past well in advance. I think the Merc team were slow to relay the info to Lewis which is why there was a blame game on the radio between Mercedes and the race director
EDIT: Hamilton just said in the post race interview that he was told AFTER he hit Verstappen that he was letting him through so that will probably be the end of the penalties
Fair point. My memory was that Max slowed in the entrance to a corner. Isn't that quite unusual? You'd either stay wide or lift on the straight. But, for sure, it's such a sinuous track it might be easy to get that wrong.
In any case, I wouldn't want extra penalties heading to Abu Dhabi. Let them (and the huge pyramids of support of their teams) fight it out. Hopefully fairly. :-)
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Both seem very evenly matched going into the final race so a lay of Hamilton at 1.67 seems a value lay to me in a 50/50 scenario

Hamilton might have a slight advantage in that the constructors seems to be wrapped up so Bottas will have a bit more freedom to 'get his elbows out'

One thing though that disappoints me with both drivers is no cross words between them on the podium. Prost and Senna would have been having a proper go at each other, would like to see a bit of emotion.
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Nope just watched it again. Max tried to take Lewis out. No question.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:10 pm
Nope just watched it again. Max tried to take Lewis out. No question.
He's been summoned to the stewards so I guess we'll find out soon enough.

If he did that could be a DQ and game over

EDIT: Red Bull saying they have the data to prove Max didn't brake test Lewis.
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Christ, Damon Hill is so far up Lewis' backside that he could be illegal in Saudi Arabia
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:10 pm
Nope just watched it again. Max tried to take Lewis out. No question.
He's been summoned to the stewards so I guess we'll find out soon enough.

If he did that could be a DQ and game over

EDIT: Red Bull saying they have the data to prove Max didn't brake test Lewis.
The video sound suggests downshifting in an odd place, quite probably not braking.
But as I say, I want them to go to the final race level.
IMO and only IMO I'm a bit let down by Max after that race.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:19 pm
Christ, Damon Hill is so far up Lewis' backside that he could be illegal in Saudi Arabia
Hahaha
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:22 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:10 pm
Nope just watched it again. Max tried to take Lewis out. No question.
He's been summoned to the stewards so I guess we'll find out soon enough.

If he did that could be a DQ and game over

EDIT: Red Bull saying they have the data to prove Max didn't brake test Lewis.
The video sound suggests downshifting in an odd place, quite probably not braking.
But as I say, I want them to go to the final race level.
IMO and only IMO I'm a bit let down by Max after that race.
I honestly don't know but like you I want them all square next week.

The tactics then would be pretty obvious surely? Turn Perez and Bottas into torpedoes to take out Hamilton and Verstappen :D
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Hamilton just gone from 1.64 into 1.18 for the championship!

Nobody saying anything on Sky or twitter yet though

Big back bet took all the money down to 1.01. Somebody is confident of a penalty
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:26 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:22 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:12 pm


He's been summoned to the stewards so I guess we'll find out soon enough.

If he did that could be a DQ and game over

EDIT: Red Bull saying they have the data to prove Max didn't brake test Lewis.
The video sound suggests downshifting in an odd place, quite probably not braking.
But as I say, I want them to go to the final race level.
IMO and only IMO I'm a bit let down by Max after that race.
I honestly don't know but like you I want them all square next week.

The tactics then would be pretty obvious surely? Turn Perez and Bottas into torpedoes to take out Hamilton and Verstappen :D
Lol.
Oh gawd what an anticlimax that would be.
Shaung89's prediction for Saudi was pretty accurate though, wasn't it?. Chaos.
Perhaps we should ask him about next week.
Now homework required for Abu Dhabi.
But, off at a tangent, just occasionally, I feel my Sky sub is worth it! :-)
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