Surprising that the was no on-board replay from Verstappen's car. The stewards surely would have had a replay but it was probably a calculated risk from Max. Would have been a 5 second penalty so probably fancied himself to finish that far ahead of Bottas if he really needed to.greenmark wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:54 pmPretty icey on the rostrum. I reckon Lewis is pretty peed off off with Max's block.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:37 pmGreat race game on for the championship!
Also Red Bull are gonna have to put up or shut up regarding Mercedes' rear wing
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Don’t normally watch F1. Thoroughly enjoyed that race though.
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Its probably fake, no mention of it anywhere but on Twitter and not from any reputable sources.
I'm even sitting through Ted Kravitz's notebook and there's no mention of it
I'm even sitting through Ted Kravitz's notebook and there's no mention of it
No it’s legit. It’ll be a fine.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Bta6K.html
He’s done this before hasn't he?
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... Bta6K.html
He’s done this before hasn't he?
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Whether you support Lewis or Max the drivers and constructors markets have been great to trade 
Can't wait for Qatar!
Can't wait for Qatar!
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Pat. Hamilton is undoubtedy talented, however his big mouth and countless examples of hypocrisy, let him down time and time again. And after all, let's face it - even on track, ROSBERG beat him in the same car over an entire season! So now way is Hamilton the GOAT, far from it.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:12 pmThat's just not true.
Yes most of the grid either comes from money or have wealthy backers, but as for Hamilton's main rivals during his time in F1 only Rosberg and Verstappen have come from privilege because of who their fathers are. However Alonso comes from a working class family and Vettel came from fairly humble beginnings so those two got where they are through skill and hard work just as much as Hamilton.
My criticism of him comes more from him as a person than a driver. I know a lot of drivers try to be brands but he's in a league of his own, everything he says or does seems to be calculated for maximum likes or followers. His t-shirt at the Hungarian GP being the biggest example of his hypocrisy. I completely agreed with the message but Hungary in some ways was an easy target, a relatively small country that doesn't contribute a huge amount to F1. Now I will completely change my opinion on Hamilton if he turns up to the Saudi GP wearing a Khashoggi t-shirt or one with pictures of Yemeni women and children, or turns up to next years Chinese GP and wears a shirt in support of the Uyghurs.
None of that will happen though and why not? Because the Saudi's and the Chinese are heavily invested in F1 as a brand and Mercedes as a team, and the team make a lot of money from them directly and indirectly. And I'm sure Hamilton himself is invested in those countries in some way too.
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Perhaps we should compare the contributions to the Qatar human rights debate from Hamilton, Bottas and Vettel.
Qatar Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton calls for Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be scrutinised over human rights issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59337775
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Qatar Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton calls for Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be scrutinised over human rights issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59337775
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Fair play to himgreenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:53 pmPerhaps we should compare the contributions to the Qatar human rights debate from Hamilton, Bottas and Vettel.
Qatar Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton calls for Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be scrutinised over human rights issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59337775
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
I think so, but only IMO.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:32 pmFair play to himgreenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:53 pmPerhaps we should compare the contributions to the Qatar human rights debate from Hamilton, Bottas and Vettel.
Qatar Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton calls for Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be scrutinised over human rights issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59337775
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
What is true is Euler's observation that this Max/Lewis scenario is heading to a Senna/Prost confrontation.
I just hope they both can race fairly, because they are both clearly terrific drivers.
In any case, this weekend will be intriguing.
Can't wait!
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greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:13 pmI think so, but only IMO.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:32 pmFair play to himgreenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:53 pmPerhaps we should compare the contributions to the Qatar human rights debate from Hamilton, Bottas and Vettel.
Qatar Grand Prix: Lewis Hamilton calls for Qatar and Saudi Arabia to be scrutinised over human rights issues
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59337775
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
What is true is Euler's observation that this Max/Lewis scenario is heading to a Senna/Prost confrontation.
I just hope they both can race fairly, because they are both clearly terrific drivers.
In any case, this weekend will be intriguing.
Can't wait!
Credit where its due.
Max now has an extra problem with other drivers starting to give opinions on whether or not he should have been punished for that move on Hamilton. He's gonna have to be very careful overtaking anyone around the outside in the final 3 races, they might feel more emboldened to 'guide ' him off the track. I think the stewards got it right though, the onboard footage shows he didn't open his steering (was very clever though
)If Hamilton wins expect Red Bull to protest about the rear wing, was an interesting presser today with Horner asking Wolff directly about the score marks on the rear wing. Looks like Merc have a straight line speed advantage here too but won't be as significant as Brazil, just one DRS zone.
I think the idea that Max is the heir apparent is looking irrefutable. But Lewis is like a morphing piece of granite. You don't achieve what he has without serious networking skills. We shall see when Russell rocks up just how ace Lewis is. Thats next year. And thiis year's F1 is still in the balance.Trader Pat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:19 pmgreenmark wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:13 pmI think so, but only IMO.
What is true is Euler's observation that this Max/Lewis scenario is heading to a Senna/Prost confrontation.
I just hope they both can race fairly, because they are both clearly terrific drivers.
In any case, this weekend will be intriguing.
Can't wait!
Credit where its due.
Max now has an extra problem with other drivers starting to give opinions on whether or not he should have been punished for that move on Hamilton. He's gonna have to be very careful overtaking anyone around the outside in the final 3 races, they might feel more emboldened to 'guide ' him off the track. I think the stewards got it right though, the onboard footage shows he didn't open his steering (was very clever though
If Hamilton wins expect Red Bull to protest about the rear wing, was an interesting presser today with Horner asking Wolff directly about the score marks on the rear wing. Looks like Merc have a straight line speed advantage here too but won't be as significant as Brazil, just one DRS zone.