Grosjean crash

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Trader Pat wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:33 pm
I've just seen it in full now, pretty terrifying especially in this age of safety.

It brought back to me the Roger Williamson crash in the 70's, was before my time but I saw a doc on it when I was younger. Really tough to watch and very sad. F1 drivers back then really were made of different stuff.

Great to see that Grosjean is ok.
Back in the fifties, they didn't even wear seat belts because they believed it would help the driver get thrown clear to avoid getting burned in the car.
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I watch and of course trade F1.

Regarding the Grosjean crash what seems to have happened is that the barriers were at an angle of about 150° to the track rather than directly in line with the track which would have been 180° and much safer.

As Grosjean clipped the front wheel of Kvyat it turned his car meaning that when he hit the barrier it was almost a direct nose on impact with the barrier. With the front of the car being like the front of 'The Nautilus' in Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea, the head on impact pierced the barrier - this really shouldn't happen and needs sorting. However, it also appears that the point of impact was directly next to one of the posts which hold the front of the barrier in place. Once the front of the car has gone through the barrier, the post has then deflected the front of the car to the right and the G force and impact with the post has detached the much heavier back half of the car from the front. The monocoque safety cell is actually facing in the wrong direction having gone through the barrier.

I think the doctor should have offered his back to Grosjean to jump onto from the barrier as Grosjean could have easily had leg or ankle damage which wouldn't have been helped with the 3-4 foot drop off the barrier.

The Halo has undoubtedly saved Grosjean's life as the barrier would likely have taken his head off. Very scary and very lucky that there wasn't a full fuel tank rupture and that Grosjean wasn't left either trapped in the car or knocked unconscious.
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I was watching live and said a quick prayer for whatever driver had caused the enormous fireball. I was sure he'd be unconscious and have to be released manually by the Fire Marshalls and medics.

Thank God that Romain was able to get himself out of the burning monocoque. He reported from hospital that his visor had melted by the time he got free, so it was borderline miraculous that he suffered only the relatively mild burns and sore ribs, etc that he did.

It's sad that this was the last time he'll ever sit in an F1 car again as Haas have released him and Magnussen from their contracts for next season; plus with Hulkenburg and Perez still available, there's next to zero chance any teams will take Romain.

Credit is due I feel to the likes of Sir Jackie Stewart and Stirling Moss et al, that campaigned over many years to increase the number of safety features such as barriers, fire marshalls and medical staff. Undoubtedly their efforts contributed to the saving of many lives, not least Romain's.

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Crazyskier wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:40 pm
I was watching live and said a quick prayer for whatever driver had caused the enormous fireball. I was sure he'd be unconscious and have to be released manually by the Fire Marshalls and medics.

Thank God that Romain was able to get himself out of the burning monocoque. He reported from hospital that his visor had melted by the time he got free, so it was borderline miraculous that he suffered only the relatively mild burns and sore ribs, etc that he did.

It's sad that this was the last time he'll ever sit in an F1 car again as Haas have released him and Magnussen from their contracts for next season; plus with Hulkenburg and Perez still available, there's next to zero chance any teams will take Romain.

Credit is due I feel to the likes of Sir Jackie Stewart and Stirling Moss et al, that campaigned over many years to increase the number of safety features such as barriers, fire marshalls and medical staff. Undoubtedly their efforts contributed to the saving of many lives, not least Romain's.

CS
And of course the late Charlie Whiting who pushed so hard to get the Halo introduced.
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It sums up F1 at the minute when incidents like this are the only reason it's in the news.
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Naffman wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:08 pm
It sums up F1 at the minute when incidents like this are the only reason it's in the news.
I'm half expecting Sky to use this crash to try and prove F1 isn't boring! :D

Funny how you can be all nostalgic though and look back to the days when F1 was exciting like it was only a few years ago. I was clearing out some stuff a few months ago and found a box full of old VHS tapes of F1 races in the mid to late 90's that I used to record. Found a video player and realised it was just as boring back then :lol: The difference was the cars looked better, sounded better and there were actually some personalities on the grid.

The last time F1 was properly exciting was back in the late 80's early 90's
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goat68 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:10 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 12:40 pm
I was watching live and said a quick prayer for whatever driver had caused the enormous fireball. I was sure he'd be unconscious and have to be released manually by the Fire Marshalls and medics.

Thank God that Romain was able to get himself out of the burning monocoque. He reported from hospital that his visor had melted by the time he got free, so it was borderline miraculous that he suffered only the relatively mild burns and sore ribs, etc that he did.

It's sad that this was the last time he'll ever sit in an F1 car again as Haas have released him and Magnussen from their contracts for next season; plus with Hulkenburg and Perez still available, there's next to zero chance any teams will take Romain.

Credit is due I feel to the likes of Sir Jackie Stewart and Stirling Moss et al, that campaigned over many years to increase the number of safety features such as barriers, fire marshalls and medical staff. Undoubtedly their efforts contributed to the saving of many lives, not least Romain's.

CS
And of course the late Charlie Whiting who pushed so hard to get the Halo introduced.
Indeed. A sad loss to the sport.

CS
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