How is PC calculated on Aus racing profit?

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jamesedwards
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Does the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?

With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pm
Does the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?

With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
Commission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:27 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pm
Does the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?

With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
Commission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.
So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?

Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:27 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pm
Does the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?

With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
Commission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.
So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?

Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
Commission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:37 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:27 pm


Commission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.
So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?

Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
Commission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.
Commission would be £6. But would 'Commission Generated' from this market be £3 or £1. ie is it half of the actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
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jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:08 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:37 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pm


So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?

Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
Commission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.
Commission would be £6. But would 'Commission Generated' from this market be £3 or £1. ie is it half of the actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
It would be £3. I've coded my database to calculate commission generated on what you pay and it's always correct to the exact penny. It wouldn't be fair of Betfair to charge you 10% and only credit you for half of 2%.
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If you want to calculate your PC on a market by market basis, see the link below.

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=20849&p=218215#p218215
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For a 2% base rate market
Win £100. Commission paid = £2 and commission generated = £1 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)

For a 6% base rate market
Win £100. Commission paid = £6 and commission generated = £3 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)

Its half of your comm, and half of the comm of the people you lost to (but they assume they're on 3%)

So for the 4 markets above you'd pay £8 but generate for the purposes of PC £7.
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Got it.

Thanks all.
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