Does the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
How is PC calculated on Aus racing profit?
Commission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pmDoes the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
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So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:27 pmCommission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pmDoes the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
Commission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pmSo what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:27 pmCommission is calculated the same for all markets. Half your commission paid counts as commission generated for winning markets and 1.5% of your losses counts for your losing markets.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:14 pmDoes the winning part of 'Commission Generated' contribute a value to half of actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?
With UK racing on the basic 2% commission these would both be the same, but I've been doing some Aussie racing where actual commission paid is around 6%.
Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
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Commission would be £6. But would 'Commission Generated' from this market be £3 or £1. ie is it half of the actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:37 pmCommission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pmSo what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?
Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
It would be £3. I've coded my database to calculate commission generated on what you pay and it's always correct to the exact penny. It wouldn't be fair of Betfair to charge you 10% and only credit you for half of 2%.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 10:08 pmCommission would be £6. But would 'Commission Generated' from this market be £3 or £1. ie is it half of the actual commission paid, or half of an assumed 2% commission paid?Derek27 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 9:37 pmCommission would amount to £3. PC, assuming you're on 20%, is 20% of your weekly gross profit less commission generated.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 12, 2022 8:56 pm
So what is 'commission generated' for a winning Aus market gross profit £100 where commission paid was 6% or £6?
Does 'commission generated' for the above winning market contribute 3%/£3, or 1%/£1 towards PC in this example?
If you want to calculate your PC on a market by market basis, see the link below.
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For a 2% base rate market
Win £100. Commission paid = £2 and commission generated = £1 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)
For a 6% base rate market
Win £100. Commission paid = £6 and commission generated = £3 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)
Its half of your comm, and half of the comm of the people you lost to (but they assume they're on 3%)
So for the 4 markets above you'd pay £8 but generate for the purposes of PC £7.
Win £100. Commission paid = £2 and commission generated = £1 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)
For a 6% base rate market
Win £100. Commission paid = £6 and commission generated = £3 (half of your comm)
Lose £100. Commission paid = £0 and commission generated = £1.50 (half of the winners comm assumed to be 3%)
Its half of your comm, and half of the comm of the people you lost to (but they assume they're on 3%)
So for the 4 markets above you'd pay £8 but generate for the purposes of PC £7.