The Betdaq manifesto

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mugsgame
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For me the big miss is the column on the right hand side of the ladder with the matched volumes. This is a key indicator.
Unless I am being really dozy and have not switched it on settings somewhere :)
freddy
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I made the same comment on another thread on here somewhere :? ,

But with the risk or repeating myself I think that currently a lot of traders trade Betdaq using info gleaned form Betfair.
It’s def the case with me, obviously this is partly to do with Betfair's current market dominance but there are def aa few things they could improve things.
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Mr Undercover
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matched volume is critical if you're a pre-off tradder I think. If you can't see how much of that which is being offered up is actually getting matched it's difficult to read what's going on.
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ladbrokes shares up considerably this morning on this news...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/1 ... AJ20130311

seems they are on a roll at the moment!
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mugsgame
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I don't want to dampen the mood but..........
Ladbrokes are going to come to our rescue from big bad Betfair? Are you having a laugh?? :)
freddy
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No i agree, but for the short term, the next year or so it may be a good option for us all.
Long term i too have my doubts.

I guess what normally happens in business situations like this is that someone in Ladbrokes position gradually over time will increase their prices to customers if they prove successful and Betfair ont he other hand if their markets dominance is tested will eventually have to reduce their costs, so we will meet meet the middle somewhere I guess.

All in all it's got to be good news, Betfair are already starting to act more helpfully and respectfully to their customers from what i have seen.
A long way to go yet but encouraging signs at least.
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Euler
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Anyboyd spotted a great opportunity that has been created by this manifesto?
PeterLe
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Euler wrote:Anyboyd spotted a great opportunity that has been created by this manifesto?
?!

That caught our attention!
Most of the new charter appears to be for New Betdaq members..other than the first race commission free..
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Euler
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Exactly, but if you are a premium charge payer, Betdaq just gifted you an opportunity to save a few quid with that last point.
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jimrobo wrote:ladbrokes shares up considerably this morning on this news...

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/03/1 ... AJ20130311

seems they are on a roll at the moment!
I may have missed it but is Playtech the developer of the Betdaq software? I noticed when Ladbrokes completed the acquisition of Betdaq they still had an option to buy the company that developed the software.
freddy
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Commission free first race is Good idea :)
I guess they are thinking if they get you there for the first race you may stay all day :D

Wonder what Fairer in-runing delays mean ???

Betdaq currently have a lot of unmanaged markets, Betfair don't and have some with huge unnecessary delays imo.

So i have no idea what fairer may mean
longer ?, shorter ?, none ? :lol:
PeterLe
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What would be your ideal then Freddy?
I'd like to see no delay on the horses and 1 sec on the football! :)
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jimrobo
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I'm guessing you mean commission free first race on betdaq and betfair today. Betfair said nothing about premium charge on that race though. They will be including any profit with your premium charge
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mugsgame
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PC is not effected, although the commission you would have generated goes into the calculations.This is the first time I can ever remember that Betfair have made some dort of gesture to put things right. Usually they just hide behind their T&C's and say "tough luck".
Ladbrokes have definitely made an impact already. No question
freddy
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PeterLe wrote:What would be your ideal then Freddy?
I'd like to see no delay on the horses and 1 sec on the football! :)
Sounds good to me :) , i know people moan about being caught out by the fast picture players, but i would rather that than have a massive 8 sec + bet placement delay as is current.

It doesn't matter anyway, on football the longer delays just help cover the incompetence on the suspend button, no matter what the delay has been there is still often hovering.
So it may be wise to invest on that side of things rather than take the easy route and increase delays and kill off in running all together.
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