Best Betfair Trading Strategy That Actually Works

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L33
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I have briefly contacted support, but didn't want to keep on asking them a million questions :-) so I thought it might be easier to post here.

Peter posted a video about BF Trading Strategy That Actually Works on YT. Im not new to BF but I haven't used BA before. I quite like the method he used in the video and thought if I start learning BA I could just put my focus into this method first whilst im learning. Aside from any tips you may have, what horse races should I try and focus on. Im aware not Maiden and Novice, but I dont want to be guessing at what races I should be looking at first. I tend to work quite methodically and usually work from a list, just to try and limit mistakes etc, so Ideally id like to add to my list the sort of races I should be looking at as a beginner to this method.

thanks.
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If you sit and watch races for long enough you will begin to get a feel for the markets. But the perfect market would be a higher quality where there is a little movement.

Lower quality racing, apart from competitive handicaps is trickier and the time you get involved in the market is important. Too far out and there is no liquidity, just before two minutes and you will probably be wiped out.
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Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:59 pm
If you sit and watch races for long enough you will begin to get a feel for the markets. But the perfect market would be a higher quality where there is a little movement.

Lower quality racing, apart from competitive handicaps is trickier and the time you get involved in the market is important. Too far out and there is no liquidity, just before two minutes and you will probably be wiped out.
Thanks. Is there any way of knowing what a higher quality market is (as a beginner for example). For instance, im told to avoid maiden, novice etc. But what markets should I be looking for? Should I be looking for a certain amount of money being traded, should I be looking at 6f length races or 2 miles, should I be looking for hurdles, handicap races...ideally as a beginner it'd be great to know if theres a particular set of rules I should follow first and then learn the way those markets work. Hope that makes sense :-)
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If you look at the racecards, they will stick out like a sore thumb.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/

The feature is at 15:35 tomorrow.

But if you put all the markets in Guardian the better quality races will have more money matched on them anyhow, generally.
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Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:20 pm
If you look at the racecards, they will stick out like a sore thumb.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/

The feature is at 15:35 tomorrow.

But if you put all the markets in Guardian the better quality races will have more money matched on them anyhow, generally.
I look at the race cards...but what is it I should look for that sticks out like a sore thumb? And not quite sure what you mean by putting the markets in Guardian.

I apologise for sounding like a complete amateur...but do appreciate the help
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Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:59 pm
If you sit and watch races for long enough you will begin to get a feel for the markets. But the perfect market would be a higher quality where there is a little movement.

Lower quality racing, apart from competitive handicaps is trickier and the time you get involved in the market is important. Too far out and there is no liquidity, just before two minutes and you will probably be wiped out.
I've always thought if the market is more swingy then the value opportunities are much bigger, however bad for scalability.

What is it about markets with little movement that makes them good? Predictability between the highest and lowest traded prices not being broken?
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L33 wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:46 pm
Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:20 pm
If you look at the racecards, they will stick out like a sore thumb.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/

The feature is at 15:35 tomorrow.

But if you put all the markets in Guardian the better quality races will have more money matched on them anyhow, generally.
I look at the race cards...but what is it I should look for that sticks out like a sore thumb? And not quite sure what you mean by putting the markets in Guardian.

I apologise for sounding like a complete amateur...but do appreciate the help
Probably prize money. Also, being old fashioned if you look in the newspaper they'll print the good stuff in colour. And give you minimal info on the trash races.
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Fugazi wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:52 pm
L33 wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:46 pm
Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:20 pm
If you look at the racecards, they will stick out like a sore thumb.

https://www.racingpost.com/racecards/

The feature is at 15:35 tomorrow.

But if you put all the markets in Guardian the better quality races will have more money matched on them anyhow, generally.
I look at the race cards...but what is it I should look for that sticks out like a sore thumb? And not quite sure what you mean by putting the markets in Guardian.

I apologise for sounding like a complete amateur...but do appreciate the help
Probably prize money. Also, being old fashioned if you look in the newspaper they'll print the good stuff in colour. And give you minimal info on the trash races.
I never actually stopped to think for one minute the jockeys got money haha...I dont know why that never entered my mind...first time ive actually thought about it :-) Ive never once bought a racing newspaper, mainly because its always meant nothing to me...but if its going to be of use id certainly consider it and start learning. But if they print a paper, is there not an online equivalent? Or is that the racing post site linked above? Im also wondering why stable (excuse the pun) markets are better for this...Id imagine a lot of movement would be better but that doesnt appear o be the case...
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L33 wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:09 pm
Fugazi wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:52 pm
L33 wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 7:46 pm


I look at the race cards...but what is it I should look for that sticks out like a sore thumb? And not quite sure what you mean by putting the markets in Guardian.

I apologise for sounding like a complete amateur...but do appreciate the help
Probably prize money. Also, being old fashioned if you look in the newspaper they'll print the good stuff in colour. And give you minimal info on the trash races.
I never actually stopped to think for one minute the jockeys got money haha...I dont know why that never entered my mind...first time ive actually thought about it :-) Ive never once bought a racing newspaper, mainly because its always meant nothing to me...but if its going to be of use id certainly consider it and start learning. But if they print a paper, is there not an online equivalent? Or is that the racing post site linked above? Im also wondering why stable (excuse the pun) markets are better for this...Id imagine a lot of movement would be better but that doesnt appear o be the case...
Oh nah dont buy a paper you can get what you need online, was just the only reference point I could think to use
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Fugazi wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:51 pm
Euler wrote:
Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:59 pm
If you sit and watch races for long enough you will begin to get a feel for the markets. But the perfect market would be a higher quality where there is a little movement.

Lower quality racing, apart from competitive handicaps is trickier and the time you get involved in the market is important. Too far out and there is no liquidity, just before two minutes and you will probably be wiped out.
I've always thought if the market is more swingy then the value opportunities are much bigger, however bad for scalability.

What is it about markets with little movement that makes them good? Predictability between the highest and lowest traded prices not being broken?
They are good for this specific strategy.
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Here's the you-tube video that Peter put up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POSZ-_H ... &index=271


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