I think I have found serious bugs in BetAngel

[Euler]

I have said we will look at it and put something on the development roster, but we have to assess how it impacts everything else before we attempt to make a change and also there are other items ahead of it at any one time. It's never been requested before.

[spreadbetting]

I think youre just missing the point of what I am saying on purpose.
So fustrating...

I cannot see why you would ever bet a 1000 odds runner.
To say that they may win is true, but how many have actually genuinely had odds of 1000 and then won? and I dont mean when youre trading and the price spikes because that is entirely different to what I saying, isnt it.

There are plenty of reasons why people bet at 1000 even if it's just to free up exposure to bet again.

I'm sure people can see the point you're making about what YOU see as no hopers and don't want to green them up but it's been explained to you 1000 is the highest odds so there's no way of betting under £2 on them. Plus if you press green the field it will do just that and try to green up the field not ignore runners. All the examples you've posted have only ever had two runners backed, I've no idea why you don't just green up that selection on it's own , rather than greening the field, as that seems to be, and would do, exactly what you want to do.

Either way the current green the field doesn't have the option to disregard parts of the field for now, and as Euler says he'll put it forward to the development roster.

[AllTheGearNoIdea]

People use odds of 1000 to free up cash by reducing a liability and lots of cross matches occur at 1000 as well. There are lots of reasons to back at 1000.

Really?? you back at what size stakes at 1000 odds? I'd love to see an example of that!
Unless its a bookmaker trading with his millions of course...

Greening individual runners doesnt solve the problem.

So what youre saying is
"If you dont like it go somehwere else, youre not welcome here.
There is no problem with the software because we are all traders, not punters, and we have huge banks anyway"

ok, thanks.

[spreadbetting]

Greening individual runners doesnt solve the problem.

Why not? Your examples have all been two runners and one of them you didn't want to green up. Everyone else seems to manage with no problem.

So what youre saying is
"If you dont like it go somehwere else, youre not welcome here.
There is no problem with the software because we are all traders, not punters, and we have huge banks anyway"

ok, thanks.

Euler has said the software doesn't have the option to ignore those runners and will put it forward to the development team. I fail to see how that translates to "If you dont like it go somehwere else, youre not welcome here"

[AllTheGearNoIdea]

Because youre trying to make me look a fool.

If you dont like the beer dont drink in my pub.

loud and clear.

[gutuami]

Why not pester Betfair and ask them to reduce minimum bet size to 1p, should be easy enough. Afterall that's the core issue here isn't it?

they should allow api software to place under 2 pounds bets @ odds bigger then 100 or at least at 1000.

[marko236]

Why not pester Betfair and ask them to reduce minimum bet size to 1p, should be easy enough. Afterall that's the core issue here isn't it?

they should allow api software to place under 2 pounds bets @ odds bigger then 100 or at least at 1000.

Agree why lower limit on api and then make you bet at £2 before your lower bet is matched? i think betfair do this so that traders end up going over 1000 bets an hour and they can charge them.

[convoysur-2]

The other greening options have exactly the same problem.

Give me an example of when you can see a 1000 back bet with nothing on the lay side and you would bet it to win.?

As Euler said, at least have the option to green up if odds are below a given price eg 999?

And in case your wondering Ive used most the other programs out there and they green up as I am suggesting. But I want to use BetAngel.

So what do you guys do? Or have you all got betting banks in the £1000's?

[AllTheGearNoIdea]

Another problem 1:35 Lingfield

I dutched two horses Kubeba and Scot Daddy

Kubeba is withdrawn and I cant green/red up to reduce my liability.

Another Bug or a Betfair peculiarity.

Ok I'm a small stakes player, but weren't we all once? Or is BetAngel only for traders and autobots?

[AllTheGearNoIdea]

Whilst on the subject of dutching

How can you vary the profits per runner?

I cant see how to do this is the help guide.

eg I fancy 3 horses to win but one of them more than the other two.
As it is I can have a target win figure of say £10 for each runner, but I cant see how to have say zero 5 and 10 targets favouring the horses I fancy?

Or cant BetAngel do this?

[Dallas]

I fancy 3 horses to win but one of them more than the other two.
As it is I can have a target win figure of say £10 for each runner, but I cant see how to have say zero 5 and 10 targets favouring the horses I fancy?

Or cant BetAngel do this?

Tick the "Over ride target profit" box immedietly to the right of where it shows your predicted profit (Target win figure) and set the amount you want for each selection.

[Euler]

http://www.betangel.com/user-guide/bet_ ... ching.html

[AllTheGearNoIdea]

Thanks Dallas. I see how to do it, thank you.

Euler
I'm obviously taking up way too much of your time.

your link and help guide only says

There are certain circumstances where if you dutch a market and have failed to account for the impact of withdrawn selections you could face a substantial loss. Please make sure you understand the market you are dutching and make sure you clearly read the rules of the market to asses any possible impact.

So; two bets in a dutch. They are in effect two separate bets with varing stakes and odds but together they give the required profit if one wins.

But , one of them is withdrawn after both are matched. You therefore have only one bet running. In play it looks like its going to lose. But I cant green/red up because for some reason that option is no longer available to me.

What is that reason if its not too much trouble to ask? Thank you.

[Tanden]

If you go into "Edit Settings..." and then go to the Behaviour tab you will find a tick box labelled "Disable green up calculation following dutching"

This link may be of use...

http://www.betangel.com/knowledge-base/ ... n-shows-na

[asaele]

I have said we will look at it and put something on the development roster, but we have to assess how it impacts everything else before we attempt to make a change and also there are other items ahead of it at any one time. It's never been requested before.

Found this old thread after using the dutching tool actively for the first time. Backed the field at Australian Open. Everything worked fine, except for the 1000 odds selections where it bet way too much.No problem betting fractions at shorter (but still very high) odds. This bug is a bit expensive when there are several selections on 1000 odds.

Would be very interested in a solution/workaround. And of course this is important to free funds by backing all selections as Euler mentioned another place in the thread.

Edit: this may not be the correct thread as my issue is not the same as OP. But thought it was related.