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rik
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Post it here and put up a "donate for strategy" fund. That way everyone can decide to pay what it is worth for them and you will have many thankful people, probably end up with a higher amount than finding a lone buyer. I imagine noone will pay a good price without knowing what exactly they are paying for.
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Trader724
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Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:32 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:31 am
Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:18 am
Good idea OP, had a similar idea myself to do something like a yard sale of my old strategies.

Are your old strategies still profitable?
Are they still alive? But of corpse!
Joke aside, in some countries the minimum wage is lower than what you can do with my strategy, with a decent bank, and that's what I'm looking for to help someone. I also mentioned that the money I get is also given to someone else. All I get is the joy of helping someone.
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Help 😂
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Hi,

I don't think your supposed to be selling stuff on this forum, if you were then there would be a sales thread for a number of reasons.

- How do we know your strategy is yours to sell and hasnt been previously bought of flee-bay for x amount.
- Sales threads can end causing allot grief for buyers/sellers and forum admin when disputes happen.
- Forum could end up with lots of scammers.
- Strategies could be back filled and/or use martingale like most of the BF xgames sales threads.
- BF P&L statements can be faked, easily.
- Anyone can produce and profitbale graph.

Have fun,
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Kai
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Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:40 am
Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:32 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:31 am

Are your old strategies still profitable?
Are they still alive? But of corpse!
Joke aside, in some countries the minimum wage is lower than what you can do with my strategy, with a decent bank, and that's what I'm looking for to help someone. I also mentioned that the money I get is also given to someone else. All I get is the joy of helping someone.
Only skimmed the thread but if you really want to help someone then why make it look like a PR stunt charity case, can just directly msg someone that looks like they need it the most, like the rest of us do? Maybe someone like Mr Goat who has a 235 thread going and has contributed a lot to the forum already.
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Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:40 am
Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:32 am


Are they still alive? But of corpse!
Joke aside, in some countries the minimum wage is lower than what you can do with my strategy, with a decent bank, and that's what I'm looking for to help someone. I also mentioned that the money I get is also given to someone else. All I get is the joy of helping someone.
Only skimmed the thread but if you really want to help someone then why make it look like a PR stunt charity case, can just directly msg someone that looks like they need it the most, like the rest of us do? Maybe someone like Mr Goat who has a 235 thread going and has contributed a lot to the forum already.
That's what I did.
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Kai wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 10:51 am

if you really want to help someone then why make it look like a PR stunt charity case.
I'm not trying to make it look in any way, the problem is that there are crooks everywhere and many have already been deceived and it's harder and harder to trust someone, sometimes even those you know personally disappoint you. I have nothing to prove, I just want to do something good by doing what I'm best at , if it won't be here on the forum where I thought it is needed the most it will be somewhere else where there is a drop of hope in humanity.
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I think you have to be realistic, the forum is full of battle-scarred warriors who have seen it all before so they are bound to be a little sceptical of a 'winning system' type approach.

I think most people see logically there isn't a need to sell a profitable strategy. So maybe you should have approached it in a different manner?

Unfortunately, this industry is plagued by people selling stuff for more than it's worth so it will always get a harsh reception here, regardless of how it's positioned, who proposes it or why.
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decomez6
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Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:35 am
decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:50 am
I don't use anymore because I have a much more advanced version that suits my level better. I can also offer it to only one person, first come first served.
generosity appreciated thanks ,

your system has undergone through an evolution(charles darwin comes to mind) , whats the granularity- level/stage/layer -are we talking about ?.
-does it mean if anyother person uses it, the edge will devolve or exchange hands to the newer user?
and also, if your buyer sells it to someone else for a better price than he bought it and still continue to use it ,how would you measure that?
what percentage of the edge will be shared amongst the newer users?

if you can detect that usage , it means you are working at the very front end of the market .you must have a vast amount of knowlegdge( database) that allows you peel off all the market layers/random variables , and observe what is happening there.
if the latter is positive, consider me your new student and i will pay you to teach me how to fish in those deep waters.

N:B: iam not saying the system is not profitable .and i see no reason why you should not sell it if its only gathering dust , due to mantainance /time constrains and costs.
I didn't offer to teach anyone very advanced things, probably no one would do that unless they would benefit more than by trading throughout their whole career which is hard to believe. I would not pass on a strategy if I thought it would become unprofitable.

As long as we don't do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. Whoever buys the strategy can do whatever they want, I am always waiting for changes in the markets because the changes bring new opportunities.
When an edge disappears from one place it will appear in another place.
However, if I bought a strategy, I would keep it just for myself, It will bring more money than if I sold it.
Agreed, changes bring opportunities ( volatility & liqiudity ).
don’t have to wait for long for prices to follow value wherever it’s found .and please note your opening bet is extremely attractive whenever it’s by accompanied a stop loss , as you have literally shown all your cards( I digress). Your suggestion has got an approach that mirrors what we do on a daily basis ...
spot an opportunity..
open an anticipatory trade...
Work towards helping your trade by not opposing it...
Then make a market. ( ideally ‘self match’ - the good/legal one) to complete a successful trade.

Why I make this wild guess?
-You say -“ do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. ”

Hope you are not selling the goose that laid the golden eggs or may be you are only sharing it hoping the new owner will not slaughter his half .
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Euler wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:46 am
I think you have to be realistic, the forum is full of battle-scarred warriors who have seen it all before so they are bound to be a little sceptical of a 'winning system' type approach.



Unfortunately, this industry is plagued by people selling stuff for more than it's worth so it will always get a harsh reception here, regardless of how it's positioned, who proposes it or why.
Unfortunately.
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decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:54 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:35 am
decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 am

generosity appreciated thanks ,

your system has undergone through an evolution(charles darwin comes to mind) , whats the granularity- level/stage/layer -are we talking about ?.
-does it mean if anyother person uses it, the edge will devolve or exchange hands to the newer user?
and also, if your buyer sells it to someone else for a better price than he bought it and still continue to use it ,how would you measure that?
what percentage of the edge will be shared amongst the newer users?

if you can detect that usage , it means you are working at the very front end of the market .you must have a vast amount of knowlegdge( database) that allows you peel off all the market layers/random variables , and observe what is happening there.
if the latter is positive, consider me your new student and i will pay you to teach me how to fish in those deep waters.

N:B: iam not saying the system is not profitable .and i see no reason why you should not sell it if its only gathering dust , due to mantainance /time constrains and costs.
I didn't offer to teach anyone very advanced things, probably no one would do that unless they would benefit more than by trading throughout their whole career which is hard to believe. I would not pass on a strategy if I thought it would become unprofitable.

As long as we don't do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. Whoever buys the strategy can do whatever they want, I am always waiting for changes in the markets because the changes bring new opportunities.
When an edge disappears from one place it will appear in another place.
However, if I bought a strategy, I would keep it just for myself, It will bring more money than if I sold it.
Agreed, changes bring opportunities ( volatility & liqiudity ).
don’t have to wait for long for prices to follow value wherever it’s found .and please note your opening bet is extremely attractive whenever it’s by accompanied a stop loss , as you have literally shown all your cards( I digress). Your suggestion has got an approach that mirrors what we do on a daily basis ...
spot an opportunity..
open an anticipatory trade...
Work towards helping your trade by not opposing it...
Then make a market. ( ideally ‘self match’ - the good/legal one) to complete a successful trade.

Why I make this wild guess?
-You say -“ do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. ”

Hope you are not selling the goose that laid the golden eggs or may be you are only sharing it hoping the new owner will not slaughter his half .
Actually I am selling the goose that layd the golden eggs. In fact, they have already hatched and the chicks have grown up and layd their eggs too. I hope it does the same for the new owner of the golden eggs goose. 😀
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decomez6
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Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:13 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:54 am
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 9:35 am

I didn't offer to teach anyone very advanced things, probably no one would do that unless they would benefit more than by trading throughout their whole career which is hard to believe. I would not pass on a strategy if I thought it would become unprofitable.

As long as we don't do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. Whoever buys the strategy can do whatever they want, I am always waiting for changes in the markets because the changes bring new opportunities.
When an edge disappears from one place it will appear in another place.
However, if I bought a strategy, I would keep it just for myself, It will bring more money than if I sold it.
Agreed, changes bring opportunities ( volatility & liqiudity ).
don’t have to wait for long for prices to follow value wherever it’s found .and please note your opening bet is extremely attractive whenever it’s by accompanied a stop loss , as you have literally shown all your cards( I digress). Your suggestion has got an approach that mirrors what we do on a daily basis ...
spot an opportunity..
open an anticipatory trade...
Work towards helping your trade by not opposing it...
Then make a market. ( ideally ‘self match’ - the good/legal one) to complete a successful trade.

Why I make this wild guess?
-You say -“ do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. ”

Hope you are not selling the goose that laid the golden eggs or may be you are only sharing it hoping the new owner will not slaughter his half .
Actually I am selling the goose that layd the golden eggs. In fact, they have already hatched and the chicks have grown up and layd their eggs too. I hope it does the same for the new owner of the golden eggs goose. 😀
:lol: 🦢✨🦢✨🦢✨✨🦢 .....all the way to the bank
It’s only golden if goldeneye approves it.
I suggest you send it to Peter, may be he can give it his blessings and a seal of approval.
That way the sceptics in us will have no more to add.
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Trader724
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decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:27 pm
Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:13 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 11:54 am

Agreed, changes bring opportunities ( volatility & liqiudity ).
don’t have to wait for long for prices to follow value wherever it’s found .and please note your opening bet is extremely attractive whenever it’s by accompanied a stop loss , as you have literally shown all your cards( I digress). Your suggestion has got an approach that mirrors what we do on a daily basis ...
spot an opportunity..
open an anticipatory trade...
Work towards helping your trade by not opposing it...
Then make a market. ( ideally ‘self match’ - the good/legal one) to complete a successful trade.

Why I make this wild guess?
-You say -“ do the same thing at the same time and we don't have the same tactics, we won't significantly influence each other. ”

Hope you are not selling the goose that laid the golden eggs or may be you are only sharing it hoping the new owner will not slaughter his half .
Actually I am selling the goose that layd the golden eggs. In fact, they have already hatched and the chicks have grown up and layd their eggs too. I hope it does the same for the new owner of the golden eggs goose. 😀
:lol: 🦢✨🦢✨🦢✨✨🦢 .....all the way to the bank
It’s only golden if goldeneye approves it.
I suggest you send it to Peter, may be he can give it his blessings and a seal of approval.
That way the sceptics in us will have no more to add.
The time I chose to devote to this subject is almost over. Maybe this is better, everyone to make their own way, and if in your way you want to cut corners, you have to know where it is safer to do it and where it's too risky. Whether we are traders or we bet, or we do none of this, risk is part of our lives. Always choose the lowest risk, with the highest reward.
rik
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Trader724 wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 12:13 pm
Actually I am selling the goose that layd the golden eggs. In fact, they have already hatched and the chicks have grown up and layd their eggs too. I hope it does the same for the new owner of the golden eggs goose. 😀
Zoo of golden chicken and still worried about liabilities, must be staking real big.
Outright betting? Generally trading strategies you stake as big as the market can handle and your edge diminshes, for trading you usually reach that point in 3 figures already. Someone else doing a similiar thing because too much liability is nonsense.
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Maybe this is better, everyone to make their own way, and if in your way you want to cut corners, you have to know where it is safer to do it and where it's too risky.
Spot on.
risk assessment demands interrogation. I hope you are not feeling under appreciated by those of us who would be careful not to re- invent the wheel.
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