Percentage difference between best back and lay price.

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8ballprowler
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Potentially placing an opening trade if the best lay price is lets say 80% less than the best back price.
So that's £80 on the back side and £20 on the lay side.
Is this possible please?
And how?
Thanks in advance.
Neil.
jamesg46
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You don't want the % difference between the best back & lay price, that'll give you the spread.

From what I can gather you need to store unmatched money at best back & lay prices and then set your condition... it is something that you can do and I believe there is a scalping file made by Dallas that has this rule already setup, so all you would need to do is copy it into your file.
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Dallas
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This will get you started
viewtopic.php?f=58&t=18645

Edit, just seen James reply, and that's the file he was referring too
8ballprowler
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jamesg46 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 9:20 pm
You don't want the % difference between the best back & lay price, that'll give you the spread.

From what I can gather you need to store unmatched money at best back & lay prices and then set your condition... it is something that you can do and I believe there is a scalping file made by Dallas that has this rule already setup, so all you would need to do is copy it into your file.
Spread?
jamesg46
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8ballprowler wrote:
Sat May 22, 2021 10:38 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 9:20 pm
You don't want the % difference between the best back & lay price, that'll give you the spread.

From what I can gather you need to store unmatched money at best back & lay prices and then set your condition... it is something that you can do and I believe there is a scalping file made by Dallas that has this rule already setup, so all you would need to do is copy it into your file.
Spread?
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8ballprowler
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8ballprowler wrote:
Sat May 22, 2021 10:38 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Fri May 21, 2021 9:20 pm
You don't want the % difference between the best back & lay price, that'll give you the spread.

From what I can gather you need to store unmatched money at best back & lay prices and then set your condition... it is something that you can do and I believe there is a scalping file made by Dallas that has this rule already setup, so all you would need to do is copy it into your file.
How do I go about opening a trade when there is either more or less money yet to me matched on either back or lay side.

So if there's more unmatched money on lay side compared to Back side of the market, then fires the opening trade.

How do I go about it please?

Cheers.
Neil.
jamesg46
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You would use "Stored values".

Rule Type: Set/Modify a Stored value only

Store the value with "the money available to lay at a price for a selection".

Price: The best Lay Price

+ Second Best Lay Price (optional).

Then store the same value but for money available to back at a price, best back etc.

When you set up your back or lay rule to trigger you would then use one of the money waiting stored values is greater than the other as a condition.

If that makes no sense then post back and I'm sure either myself or someone else has plenty of time to knock up a rough template for you today (as there is pretty much nothing else to do).
jamesg46
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viewtopic.php?f=53&t=19273

This file could help you out.
8ballprowler
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jamesg46 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:39 pm
You would use "Stored values".

Rule Type: Set/Modify a Stored value only

Store the value with "the money available to lay at a price for a selection".

Price: The best Lay Price

+ Second Best Lay Price (optional).

Then store the same value but for money available to back at a price, best back etc.

When you set up your back or lay rule to trigger you would then use one of the money waiting stored values is greater than the other as a condition.

If that makes no sense then post back and I'm sure either myself or someone else has plenty of time to knock up a rough template for you today (as there is pretty much nothing else to do).
Cheers James.

I'm predominantly looking to Lay in-running, and offset by 1 tick.

Lay bet only triggered if there is more money waiting to be matched on the lay side in it's entirety (total) is more than back side in its entirety (total).

Lay is opening trade as it will be for jumps. In case the selection goes for Burton.

Not just at best, 2nd Best and 3rd best.

Neil.
Vovsen
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8ballprowler wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 6:59 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:39 pm
You would use "Stored values".

Rule Type: Set/Modify a Stored value only

Store the value with "the money available to lay at a price for a selection".

Price: The best Lay Price

+ Second Best Lay Price (optional).

Then store the same value but for money available to back at a price, best back etc.

When you set up your back or lay rule to trigger you would then use one of the money waiting stored values is greater than the other as a condition.

If that makes no sense then post back and I'm sure either myself or someone else has plenty of time to knock up a rough template for you today (as there is pretty much nothing else to do).
Cheers James.

I'm predominantly looking to Lay in-running, and offset by 1 tick.

Lay bet only triggered if there is more money waiting to be matched on the lay side in it's entirety (total) is more than back side in its entirety (total).

Lay is opening trade as it will be for jumps. In case the selection goes for Burton.

Not just at best, 2nd Best and 3rd best.

Neil.
You can use the approach I mentioned in the previous thread, and then summarize the range of those price and their money waiting

Stored Values
Back Price
Back Price -1
Back Price -2
Etc.

Back Price Money Waiting
Back Price -1 Money Waiting
Back Price -2 Money Waiting
Etc.

Then

Store a value calculated from a range of values
Back Price Money Waiting
+
Back Price -1 Money Waiting
+
Back Price -2 Money Waiting
Etc.

Call it Back Prices Total Money Waiting

Similar approach for Lay Prices Total Money Waiting

Then a final rule with stored value condition

Back Prices Total Money Waiting is greater/less than Lay Prices Total Money Waiting plus/minus 100%
8ballprowler
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Vovsen wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 7:29 pm
8ballprowler wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 6:59 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 1:39 pm
You would use "Stored values".

Rule Type: Set/Modify a Stored value only

Store the value with "the money available to lay at a price for a selection".

Price: The best Lay Price

+ Second Best Lay Price (optional).

Then store the same value but for money available to back at a price, best back etc.

When you set up your back or lay rule to trigger you would then use one of the money waiting stored values is greater than the other as a condition.

If that makes no sense then post back and I'm sure either myself or someone else has plenty of time to knock up a rough template for you today (as there is pretty much nothing else to do).
Cheers James.

I'm predominantly looking to Lay in-running, and offset by 1 tick.

Lay bet only triggered if there is more money waiting to be matched on the lay side in it's entirety (total) is more than back side in its entirety (total).

Lay is opening trade as it will be for jumps. In case the selection goes for Burton.

Not just at best, 2nd Best and 3rd best.

Neil.
You can use the approach I mentioned in the previous thread, and then summarize the range of those price and their money waiting

Stored Values
Back Price
Back Price -1
Back Price -2
Etc.

Back Price Money Waiting
Back Price -1 Money Waiting
Back Price -2 Money Waiting
Etc.

Then

Store a value calculated from a range of values
Back Price Money Waiting
+
Back Price -1 Money Waiting
+
Back Price -2 Money Waiting
Etc.

Call it Back Prices Total Money Waiting

Similar approach for Lay Prices Total Money Waiting

Then a final rule with stored value condition

Back Prices Total Money Waiting is greater/less than Lay Prices Total Money Waiting plus/minus 100%
Ah, right. I think I understand now.
So first rule is to set stored values is it?
Neil.
Vovsen
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Yea, first rule to store all the values, or you can of course separate them into more rules that are storing the values

Then second rule could be a signal, alert, bet trigger, etc that uses the condition to identify the difference in those values that there is more money on either side
8ballprowler
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Vovsen wrote:
Wed May 26, 2021 8:30 pm
Yea, first rule to store all the values, or you can of course separate them into more rules that are storing the values

Then second rule could be a signal, alert, bet trigger, etc that uses the condition to identify the difference in those values that there is more money on either side
I've PM'd you Vovsen.
Neil.
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