Ukraine Crisis
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Both, Russia and China think because the west is peace-loving it's also easily intimidated and the mere threat of war will have western nations running scared. That only works at diplomatic level. Once they start invading airspace and threats of more serious action the west has to decide if they've crossed the line, or whether they're willing to let China dictate what we do and who's allowed to visit Taiwan. Pelosi did the right thing to ignore them and if she was only 40 years younger.....Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:42 pmYeah, it looking rather scary. They said they will start live firing towards/over Taiwan.
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Derek, your sex mad.Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 11:05 pmBoth, Russia and China think because the west is peace-loving it's also easily intimidated and the mere threat of war will have western nations running scared. That only works at diplomatic level. Once they start invading airspace and threats of more serious action the west has to decide if they've crossed the line, or whether they're willing to let China dictate what we do and who's allowed to visit Taiwan. Pelosi did the right thing to ignore them and if she was only 40 years younger.....Archery1969 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:42 pmYeah, it looking rather scary. They said they will start live firing towards/over Taiwan.
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Nice to see they eventually picked it up albeit 3 days after it was de-escalatedArchery1969 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:08 amMy god the world is getting more scary each day.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/62382069
"... they (russians) not going to use artillery n airstrikes to turn Odessa into dust cause Odessas's architecture (soulless buildings and monuments) is important to russians in a cultural aspect (not the people, no). But they gonna use Mariupols approach - clear the streets by shooting civilians..."
This is a hypocrisy overdose, guys. That's is just to much. Keep dehumanizing, make nuclear holocaust more possible!
https://youtu.be/S7tG-jVyE3s?t=22
upd. Interesting that later in this podcast Lex expresses fear of nuclear war, doesn't he understand that the more you convince yourself (or let others convince you) in inhuman nature of your opponent the more possible you'll pull the trigger? He seems like a smart fellow, but in a same time demonstrates incredible blindness.
1:17:55 is a question from Lex & Andrew pretty much answers the question pointing out more or less what you’re saying.napshnap wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:11 am"... they (russians) not going to use artillery n airstrikes to turn Odessa into dust cause Odessas's architecture (soulless buildings and monuments) is important to russians in a cultural aspect (not the people, no). But they gonna use Mariupols approach - clear the streets by shooting civilians..."
This is a hypocrisy overdose, guys. That's is just to much. Keep dehumanizing, make nuclear holocaust more possible!
https://youtu.be/S7tG-jVyE3s?t=22
upd. Interesting that later in this podcast Lex expresses fear of nuclear war, doesn't he understand that the more you convince yourself (or let others convince you) in inhuman nature of your opponent the more possible you'll pull the trigger? He seems like a smart fellow, but in a same time demonstrates incredible blindness.
You know what's interesting in this particular situation? In this podcast, Andrew tries to be a "voice of reason", many times he said to Lex that you shouldn't be feelings driven and should rely only on strong material evidence, BUT it's HIS bullshit take about "architecture saving" which is obviously emotionally driven (or, taking into account his background, manipulative, I don't know). Or maybe, he has some top secret data about some random russian guy autopsy when they found out that there is a little alien guy in every russians head (like in MiB movie) or their blood is blue colored and glowing?jamesg46 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:04 am1:17:55 is a question from Lex & Andrew pretty much answers the question pointing out more or less what you’re saying.napshnap wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:11 am"... they (russians) not going to use artillery n airstrikes to turn Odessa into dust cause Odessas's architecture (soulless buildings and monuments) is important to russians in a cultural aspect (not the people, no). But they gonna use Mariupols approach - clear the streets by shooting civilians..."
This is a hypocrisy overdose, guys. That's is just to much. Keep dehumanizing, make nuclear holocaust more possible!
https://youtu.be/S7tG-jVyE3s?t=22
upd. Interesting that later in this podcast Lex expresses fear of nuclear war, doesn't he understand that the more you convince yourself (or let others convince you) in inhuman nature of your opponent the more possible you'll pull the trigger? He seems like a smart fellow, but in a same time demonstrates incredible blindness.
This thread isn't anti-russian, just anti raining misery on millions for a pretty obscure objective. The undercurrent to all this seems to be Ukraine is Nazi Germany in disguise. Thats complete cobblers. The diversity in the Donbas could have been resolved without killing people. If anythng, Putin's regime is Hitler in disguise. Lock up or kill people that gain any kind of traction with the public.napshnap wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:51 pmYou know what's interesting in this particular situation? In this podcast, Andrew tries to be a "voice of reason", many times he said to Lex that you shouldn't be feelings driven and should rely only on strong material evidence, BUT it's HIS bulshit take about "architecture saving" which is obviously emotionally driven (or, taking into account his background, manipulative, I don't know). Or maybe, he has some top secret data about some random russian guy autopsy when they found out that there is a little alien guy in every russians head (like in MiB movie) or their blood is blue colored and glowing?jamesg46 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 11:04 am1:17:55 is a question from Lex & Andrew pretty much answers the question pointing out more or less what you’re saying.napshnap wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:11 am
"... they (russians) not going to use artillery n airstrikes to turn Odessa into dust cause Odessas's architecture (soulless buildings and monuments) is important to russians in a cultural aspect (not the people, no). But they gonna use Mariupols approach - clear the streets by shooting civilians..."
This is a hypocrisy overdose, guys. That's is just to much. Keep dehumanizing, make nuclear holocaust more possible!
https://youtu.be/S7tG-jVyE3s?t=22
upd. Interesting that later in this podcast Lex expresses fear of nuclear war, doesn't he understand that the more you convince yourself (or let others convince you) in inhuman nature of your opponent the more possible you'll pull the trigger? He seems like a smart fellow, but in a same time demonstrates incredible blindness.
This whole project is just an insane waste.
Can you trust someone that changes his country's constitution to allow him to stand in the next (pointless) election?
The undercurrent to all this is nato's possible expansion into vital region, I guess we discussed it.greenmark wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:21 pmThis thread isn't anti-russian, just anti raining misery on millions for a pretty obscure objective. The undercurrent to all this seems to be Ukraine is Nazi Germany in disguise. Thats complete cobblers. The diversity in the Donbas could have been resolved without killing people. If anythng, Putin's regime is Hitler in disguise. Lock up or kill people that gain any kind of traction with the public.napshnap wrote: ↑Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:51 pmYou know what's interesting in this particular situation? In this podcast, Andrew tries to be a "voice of reason", many times he said to Lex that you shouldn't be feelings driven and should rely only on strong material evidence, BUT it's HIS bulshit take about "architecture saving" which is obviously emotionally driven (or, taking into account his background, manipulative, I don't know). Or maybe, he has some top secret data about some random russian guy autopsy when they found out that there is a little alien guy in every russians head (like in MiB movie) or their blood is blue colored and glowing?
This whole project is just an insane waste.
Can you trust someone that changes his country's constitution to allow him to stand in the next (pointless) election?
"The diversity in the Donbas could have been resolved without killing people."
The people who lost their presentation in the gov (lack of it opens the door to all possible kinds of oppression) due to undemocratic coup were then officially identified as separatists and terrorists ("counterterrorism operation" that's how the called it) and certain (deadly) action was taken against them which the west totally approved or closed eyes on this (and keep them closed by now).
" If anythng, Putin's regime..."
Screw all of that, that domestic "politics" (hehe btw, some western countries adopt our "best practices" - Mar a Lago raid). You know my opinion.