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Trader Pat
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napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:22 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:05 pm
I think the human race has long since proved that we can't govern ourselves so maybe the time is right for an alien overlord to come along and sort us out.

My vote goes to Diana from 'V' or Seven of Nine from her Voyager days
You know what, Pat? I thought about it, so much has happened in the past couple of years. So fast and so staged, like fkn b-movie. So if aliens will arrive - I won't bat an eyelid.
They may be already among us! :D
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napshnap
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Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:24 pm
napshnap wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:22 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 7:05 pm
I think the human race has long since proved that we can't govern ourselves so maybe the time is right for an alien overlord to come along and sort us out.

My vote goes to Diana from 'V' or Seven of Nine from her Voyager days
You know what, Pat? I thought about it, so much has happened in the past couple of years. So fast and so staged, like fkn b-movie. So if aliens will arrive - I won't bat an eyelid.
They may be already among us! :D
Nah, that's just influencers and trans people! :D
Archery1969
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Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
greenmark
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
That stuff is for domestic Russian consumption. It bears no relation to reality. The "West" ie everyone other than Russia, wants Russia to stop their aggression.
Archery1969
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:15 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
That stuff is for domestic Russian consumption. It bears no relation to reality. The "West" ie everyone other than Russia, wants Russia to stop their aggression.
Agreed. Need to test my investment. :)
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:15 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
That stuff is for domestic Russian consumption. It bears no relation to reality. The "West" ie everyone other than Russia, wants Russia to stop their aggression.
Agreed. Need to test my investment. :)
Hope I'm right and you're wrong. Otherwise when the 3 mniute warning happens, I'll be outside waiting for the nuclear blast to strip the flesh from my bones and leave you to master a post-apocolyptic world. Hell, it could be King Archery1969! Only bantering, of course. Glad you have a strategy. :-)
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Derek27
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Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
Will he be on the battlefield himself? ;)
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greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:38 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:17 pm
greenmark wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:15 pm


That stuff is for domestic Russian consumption. It bears no relation to reality. The "West" ie everyone other than Russia, wants Russia to stop their aggression.
Agreed. Need to test my investment. :)
Hope I'm right and you're wrong. Otherwise when the 3 mniute warning happens, I'll be outside waiting for the nuclear blast to strip the flesh from my bones and leave you to master a post-apocolyptic world. Hell, it could be King Archery1969! Only bantering, of course. Glad you have a strategy. :-)
Well, it either works and I be safe for awhile or it fails and I wont need to worry about getting a refund. :lol:
Archery1969
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:50 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 9:02 pm
Putin dares the West to meet on the battlefield. :o

Does BJ still have the power to send the codes ?
Will he be on the battlefield himself? ;)
Maybe that will be his legacy, run over by a Russian tank. :)
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Derek27
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Ukrainian soldiers training in Britain in a place where Russian missiles don't land.....for now. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Ukrainian soldiers training in Britain in a place where Russian missiles don't land.....for now. ;)
I thought that too.
We've been training Ukrainians for yonks but Putin is quite capable of spinning the story to suit himself.
However, the whole point of NATO is an alliance that adds up to something greater than the sum of its parts. Defence for over 800 million people vs aggression from a population of 145 million.
Even if you factor in Russia's massive nuclear weapon arsenal, Russia attacking any NATO country would be an existential threat to Russia and I don't think Putin is as mad as that.
The whole basis of his rule is to run an oligarchy. So he and his chums can live high on the hog. Nuclear conflagration would obliterate that.
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:15 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:02 pm
Ukrainian soldiers training in Britain in a place where Russian missiles don't land.....for now. ;)
I thought that too.
We've been training Ukrainians for yonks but Putin is quite capable of spinning the story to suit himself.
However, the whole point of NATO is an alliance that adds up to something greater than the sum of its parts. Defence for over 800 million people vs aggression from a population of 145 million.
Even if you factor in Russia's massive nuclear weapon arsenal, Russia attacking any NATO country would be an existential threat to Russia and I don't think Putin is as mad as that.
The whole basis of his rule is to run an oligarchy. So he and his chums can live high on the hog. Nuclear conflagration would obliterate that.
Yes, but he's going to die soon so what would it matter to him? :)
Archery1969
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Moldova will be next and then NATO will have a very tough decision to make.

We could be at war before the next general election.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:24 pm
Moldova will be next and then NATO will have a very tough decision to make.

We could be at war before the next general election.
If Starmer gets into office before the war starts, all those Johnson supporters will have to say, we can't change leader now, there's a war on. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:34 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:24 pm
Moldova will be next and then NATO will have a very tough decision to make.

We could be at war before the next general election.
If Starmer gets into office before the war starts, all those Johnson supporters will have to say, we can't change leader now, there's a war on. :D
Think I am right in saying that GE can be postponed if we at war.
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