I don't think being called a liar would be sufficient justification for a nuclear strike. Lavrov still denies there's a war going on in Ukraine. He's more than just a liar, he's suffering from severe mental delusions.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:10 pmYou are afraid of a nuclear holocaust, so, think what would be first steps to start it? - justify it for masses by dehumanization (vilifying) you opponent (or whipping boy): hypocritical fashization - check, culprit of the global food crisis - check. What's next? "Russians are aliens in disguise! But not a handsome ones like E.T., more like Rancor ones."
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These are first steps: liars, fascists, (now) starvers, nonprogressive (hurdle for the "progress", "they sabotage our green policy!", "they don't give their children drugs for gender change!"), uncivilized - not humans, vermins... And (parallel to this): "a nuclear winter is a bullshit!", "we totally can outgun them if we'll strike first!"Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:24 pmI don't think being called a liar would be sufficient justification for a nuclear strike. Lavrov still denies there's a war going on in Ukraine. He's more than just a liar, he's suffering from severe mental delusions.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:10 pmYou are afraid of a nuclear holocaust, so, think what would be first steps to start it? - justify it for masses by dehumanization (vilifying) you opponent (or whipping boy): hypocritical fashization - check, culprit of the global food crisis - check. What's next? "Russians are aliens in disguise! But not a handsome ones like E.T., more like Rancor ones."
Cannabis is supposedly a gateway drug, the first step toward crack cocaine and heroin.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:37 pmThese are first steps: liars, fascists, (now) starvers, nonprogressive (hurdle for the "progress", "they sabotage our green policy!", "they don't give their children drugs for gender change!"), uncivilized - not humans, vermins... And (parallel to this): "a nuclear winter is a bullshit!", "we totally can outgun them if we'll strike first!"Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:24 pmI don't think being called a liar would be sufficient justification for a nuclear strike. Lavrov still denies there's a war going on in Ukraine. He's more than just a liar, he's suffering from severe mental delusions.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:10 pm
You are afraid of a nuclear holocaust, so, think what would be first steps to start it? - justify it for masses by dehumanization (vilifying) you opponent (or whipping boy): hypocritical fashization - check, culprit of the global food crisis - check. What's next? "Russians are aliens in disguise! But not a handsome ones like E.T., more like Rancor ones."
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"You are afraid of a nuclear holocaust" - Yes I am!napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:10 pmYou are afraid of a nuclear holocaust, so, think what would be first steps to start it? - justify it for masses by dehumanization (vilifying) you opponent (or whipping boy): hypocritical fashization - check, culprit of the global food crisis - check. What's next? "Russians are aliens in disguise! But not a handsome ones like E.T., more like Rancor ones."
"vilifying) you opponent". We don't have to, Lavrov and Putin have done so by their own decisions. pronouncements.
""Russians are aliens in disguise". Nonsense.
But one point I will concede. Russia is using energy as a weapon in the same way as sanctions have been deployed against Russia.
But both are better than the worst alternative and nowhere near as good as the best alternative.
Remember that best alternative? We all try to get on and collaborate to deal with global problems.
I prefer good ol shrooms (check out the avatar).Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:43 pmCannabis is supposedly a gateway drug, the first step toward crack cocaine and heroin.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:37 pmThese are first steps: liars, fascists, (now) starvers, nonprogressive (hurdle for the "progress", "they sabotage our green policy!", "they don't give their children drugs for gender change!"), uncivilized - not humans, vermins... And (parallel to this): "a nuclear winter is a bullshit!", "we totally can outgun them if we'll strike first!"
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The US is sending another $179 million worth of HIMARS and Phoenix Ghost drones to Ukraine in the coming days via multiple different entry routes into the country.
""vilifying) you opponent". We don't have to, Lavrov and Putin have done so by their own decisions. pronouncements."greenmark wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:41 pm"You are afraid of a nuclear holocaust" - Yes I am!napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 1:10 pmYou are afraid of a nuclear holocaust, so, think what would be first steps to start it? - justify it for masses by dehumanization (vilifying) you opponent (or whipping boy): hypocritical fashization - check, culprit of the global food crisis - check. What's next? "Russians are aliens in disguise! But not a handsome ones like E.T., more like Rancor ones."
"vilifying) you opponent". We don't have to, Lavrov and Putin have done so by their own decisions. pronouncements.
""Russians are aliens in disguise". Nonsense.
But one point I will concede. Russia is using energy as a weapon in the same way as sanctions have been deployed against Russia.
But both are better than the worst alternative and nowhere near as good as the best alternative.
Remember that best alternative? We all try to get on and collaborate to deal with global problems.
I didn't hear them advertising a global starvation.
"But both are better than the worst alternative and nowhere near as good as the best alternative."
I agree, a robbery is much better than a murder.
"Remember that best alternative? We all try to get on and collaborate to deal with global problems."
I heard BRICS announced the creation of new reserve currency to avoid inadequates. So, the bigger part of humanity are movin in that direction. Hope that the luckiest part of humanity will stop making trouble out of nowhere (or will run out of hoops for the people) and join in.
The west and Russia create "de-escalation zone" "demilitarized zone" on the territory of limitrofes which Russia borders and seal it with official agreement (for both countries) to stop any military or political interference into limitrofes lives. And that's it, all Russia asks is to remove a burning bag of shit out of its doorstep.
While typing that I sadly realised how unlikely this scenario is, but you asked for an "ideal".
If only our politicians have (really working) reset buttons...
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Russia's bordering the west, why doesn't Russia demilitarize? Putin is the only one who either threatens or invades.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:30 pmThe west and Russia create "de-escalation zone" "demilitarized zone" on the territory of limitrofes which Russia borders and seal it with official agreement (for both countries) to stop any military or political interference into limitrofes lives. And that's it, all Russia asks is to remove a burning bag of shit out of its doorstep.
While typing that I sadly realised how unlikely this scenario is, but you asked for an "ideal".
If only our politicians have (really working) reset buttons...
Because in this world of "hungry jackals" there is militarized Russia or no Russia at all.Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:50 pmRussia's bordering the west, why doesn't Russia demilitarize? Putin is the only one who either threatens or invades.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:30 pmThe west and Russia create "de-escalation zone" "demilitarized zone" on the territory of limitrofes which Russia borders and seal it with official agreement (for both countries) to stop any military or political interference into limitrofes lives. And that's it, all Russia asks is to remove a burning bag of shit out of its doorstep.
While typing that I sadly realised how unlikely this scenario is, but you asked for an "ideal".
If only our politicians have (really working) reset buttons...
Possibly the saddest statement on here I've read. I'm so sorry you feel that way. Nato is not a threat to Russia.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:54 pmBecause there is militarized Russia or no Russia at all.Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:50 pmRussia's bordering the west, why doesn't Russia demilitarize? Putin is the only one who either threatens or invades.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:30 pm
The west and Russia create "de-escalation zone" "demilitarized zone" on the territory of limitrofes which Russia borders and seal it with official agreement (for both countries) to stop any military or political interference into limitrofes lives. And that's it, all Russia asks is to remove a burning bag of shit out of its doorstep.
While typing that I sadly realised how unlikely this scenario is, but you asked for an "ideal".
If only our politicians have (really working) reset buttons...
The only country that wouldn't exist if it wasn't militarized is Ukraine, Putin would have just walked in.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:54 pmBecause in this world of "hungry jackals" there is militarized Russia or no Russia at all.Derek27 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:50 pmRussia's bordering the west, why doesn't Russia demilitarize? Putin is the only one who either threatens or invades.napshnap wrote: ↑Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:30 pm
The west and Russia create "de-escalation zone" "demilitarized zone" on the territory of limitrofes which Russia borders and seal it with official agreement (for both countries) to stop any military or political interference into limitrofes lives. And that's it, all Russia asks is to remove a burning bag of shit out of its doorstep.
While typing that I sadly realised how unlikely this scenario is, but you asked for an "ideal".
If only our politicians have (really working) reset buttons...
Why didn't he "just walked in" in 2014? It was way way easy back then (their main force was kaput, they fought with sticks and shovels and the world didn't care what those crazy slavs do to each other), but he didn't (and he was heavily criticised for that by some circles).
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