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Putin says all the missiles were shot down but Russians on the streets are questioning if there's any air defence in existence. Moscovites that support the war will be thinking again.
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I dont see why the war wouldnt follow Russia back home. Maybe the citizens of Moscow will feel what its like to be a citizen of Kyiv for the past year !
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Smack a stranger in the face, and if he hits you back, that justifies hitting him in the first place. :lol:
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Archangel wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 6:12 pm
I dont see why the war wouldnt follow Russia back home. Maybe the citizens of Moscow will feel what its like to be a citizen of Kyiv for the past year !
It could be a false red flag. Putin killed 300 Russian citizens living in flats so he could justify the Chechen war. That’s well documented but denied by the Kremlin.

We know he is a bit insane, so he might have staged the whole Drone attack on Moscow and then use it as an excuse to nuke Ukraine.

People say nobody would use nukes. I agree sane people wouldn’t but if a countries leader is willing to kill his own citizens to justify a war then he clearly is not sane.

I am convinced he going to do something completely mad. The only question is, what will the west and nato do if he does bring out his nukes, assuming they work!!!
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:03 pm
Archangel wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 6:12 pm
I dont see why the war wouldnt follow Russia back home. Maybe the citizens of Moscow will feel what its like to be a citizen of Kyiv for the past year !
It could be a false red flag. Putin killed 300 Russian citizens living in flats so he could justify the Chechen war. That’s well documented but denied by the Kremlin.

Yes I wouldnt put it past him to have staged the whole thing. I just cant take the nuke threat seriously. If Russia did use one in Ukraine, NATO will have to respond. I suspect they already have Russian military targets selected to take out. Using nukes almost guarantees Putins demise, and by all accounts self preservation in power has been his number one aim for years
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Military strategist on Sky News is pointing to a red flag. She pointed out there were a lot of drone spotters out filming the drones and there weren't that many of them.

If that's the case, Ukraine must really be enjoying it. They deny responsibility but make little effort to refute the allegation as if they'd like people to think it was them.
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Putin's threatening to retaliate big time. His problem now is that he's already been going flat-out with his missiles, his unstoppable missiles are being stopped so he's running out of threats.

His only joker in the pack is his nukes, but he's already exhausted that threat at the beginning of the war. Perhaps he should have saved it for later when things are going badly. Or maybe he thought things were going badly enough after ten days. :lol:
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For Russia’s on sake I hope this was some kind of false flag because if they can’t stop drones made out of ply wood then NATO would destroy their military assets at home and abroad in about 60 minutes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

We already know that their hypersonic missiles were a military joke. I very much doubt that their nukes would even make it 100 feet in the air before being destroyed. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Archery1969 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:11 pm
For Russia’s on sake I hope this was some kind of false flag because if they can’t stop drones made out of ply wood then NATO would destroy their military assets at home and abroad in about 60 minutes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

We already know that their hypersonic missiles were a military joke. I very much doubt that their nukes would even make it 100 feet in the air before being destroyed. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's no doubt that Russia has capable missiles, but will the nuclear devices they're carrying work?

I believe it's possible to develop nuclear warheads with such precision that you can be confident they'll work without even testing a device with a full nuclear detonation. Some say Israel has achieved that. But Russia can't even get an armoured car to work reliably. Will those 50-year-old missiles have been properly serviced?

We might find out this summer while you're in your bunker eating pot noodles and I'm sitting in my garden drinking beer. :mrgreen:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:20 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 11:11 pm
For Russia’s on sake I hope this was some kind of false flag because if they can’t stop drones made out of ply wood then NATO would destroy their military assets at home and abroad in about 60 minutes. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

We already know that their hypersonic missiles were a military joke. I very much doubt that their nukes would even make it 100 feet in the air before being destroyed. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There's no doubt that Russia has capable missiles, but will the nuclear devices they're carrying work?

I believe it's possible to develop nuclear warheads with such precision that you can be confident they'll work without even testing a device with a full nuclear detonation. Some say Israel has achieved that. But Russia can't even get an armoured car to work reliably. Will those 50-year-old missiles have been properly serviced?

We might find out this summer while you're in your bunker eating pot noodles and I'm sitting in my garden drinking beer. :mrgreen:
Pot noodles Derek. Give me some decorum. :)

I got multiple tins (200) of freeze dried food with a 10 year shelf life. Just add hot water and wait 8 minutes.

Monday: Spagball
Tuesday: Chicken tikka
Wednesday: Sweet & Sour chicken
Thursday: Chilli Con Carne
Friday: Macroni Cheese
Saturday: Beef & Potato Stew
Sunday: Chicken Fajita With Rice

Plus 50 porn dvd's, beer, wine, dark rum, G&T, 1800 smokes plus vapes, music, ham radio, wet wipes, toilet rolls, medical and trauma kits, clothes.

12g Shotgun, .308 rifle, 5.56 rifle, .22 WMR short rifle, crossbow, multiple knives, compound bow.

What more does one need ? :lol:
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Archery1969 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:37 am
12g Shotgun, .308 rifle, 5.56 rifle, .22 WMR short rifle, crossbow, multiple knives, compound bow.

What more does one need ? :lol:
Why do you need all those guns when everybody above ground is dead? Are they to kill the rats that are after your food? :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:51 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Wed May 31, 2023 12:37 am
12g Shotgun, .308 rifle, 5.56 rifle, .22 WMR short rifle, crossbow, multiple knives, compound bow.

What more does one need ? :lol:
Why do you need all those guns when everybody above ground is dead? Are they to kill the rats that are after your food? :lol:
Already had them from years ago plus not everyone will be dead and they may have something I want/need. 🤣
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Archangel wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:41 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 7:03 pm
Archangel wrote:
Tue May 30, 2023 6:12 pm
I dont see why the war wouldnt follow Russia back home. Maybe the citizens of Moscow will feel what its like to be a citizen of Kyiv for the past year !
It could be a false red flag. Putin killed 300 Russian citizens living in flats so he could justify the Chechen war. That’s well documented but denied by the Kremlin.

Yes I wouldnt put it past him to have staged the whole thing. I just cant take the nuke threat seriously. If Russia did use one in Ukraine, NATO will have to respond. I suspect they already have Russian military targets selected to take out. Using nukes almost guarantees Putins demise, and by all accounts self preservation in power has been his number one aim for years
I see the conspiracy theorists are back spouting nonsense about how a leader would conspire against their own citizens
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The reality is that Russia has fought back against Ukraniane's attack, conquered ground and backed Ukraine into a corner bleeding them dry of troops with their superior military and weapons.

Russia has destroyed the Ukranian air force and defences including Patriot. All threats at the Russian border have been neutralised by the Russian air force.

Russia now has some 500,000 men in reserve and is well placed to deal with any sort of threat.

In the future Putin will probably be remembered as a hero for the way he dealt with this war by minimalising civilian casualities despite having the resources to wreck havoc upon the population of the antagonist country
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