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darchas
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Kai wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:38 pm
Is very nice moviefilm, doing the coming tomorrows. I hope you like.

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Looking forward to seeing it. Looks like Rudy Giuliani doesn't come out of looking good according to this

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/o ... borat-film

Did you ever see Who is America? That was brilliant, some really insane stuff in that as well.
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sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:40 pm
I read all your posts in his accent :)
Very nice, but I don't have accent. You please come see moviefilm, it it not success I will be execute.
darchas wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:45 pm
Did you ever see Who is America? That was brilliant, some really insane stuff in that as well.
Yes. Although Kazakhstan a glorious country, it have a problem too : economic, social and Jew. It is why very important to make cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan.
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I'm not saying Giuliani is or isn't lying but its interesting that the producers gave him the wiggle room (no pun intended) to be able to deny it.

Why didn't they leave it for another few seconds to see what he was going to do next? Might have caught him literally with his pants down!
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darchas wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:45 pm
Did you ever see Who is America? That was brilliant, some really insane stuff in that as well.
Yes. Although Kazakhstan a glorious country, it have a problem too : economic, social and Jew. It is why very important to make cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Came across 'Moneyball' the other night, my attention spiked when Jonah Hill's character started touting his method for using stats to find under valued players rather than relying on old school scouts.

Thought I'd share in case others would enjoy as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBcwGOvO80
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aines88 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Came across 'Moneyball' the other night, my attention spiked when Jonah Hill's character started touting his method for using stats to find under valued players rather than relying on old school scouts.

Thought I'd share in case others would enjoy as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBcwGOvO80
Based on this book which has a lot more detail

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moneyball-Art- ... 0393324818

I read an article a while back which talked about the bias in the book and how things were construed to construct a compelling narrative. Interesting stuff and as always a useful exercise to get beyond the headlines.
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Actually, us Liverpool fans are pretty familiar with Moneyball ever since FSG took over the club 10 years ago, they tried a carbon copy of that approach and were ridiculed after it failed spectacularly, with the likes of Steward Downing going something like a whole season without a single goal or assist (from memory). Basically, only Jordan Henderson survived from those Moneyball signings, it was almost hilarious when they tried to use those numbers to supply Andy Carroll from all sides of the pitch, with Downing crosses and Charlie Adam from set pieces etc.

Never studied this in depth but the sabermetrics model was since improved when Klopp took over, and that new improved recruitment policy is what other clubs are most interested in when they keep repeating how they want to follow the Liverpool model. Chelsea in particular is trying out something very similar over the last couple of transfer windows.

It's also been reported just days ago that Billy Beane is looking to invest in Liverpool and work closer with the club on improving that further, and I'll be absolutely buzzing if he does come.

But yeah, it's definitely interesting how a revolutionary concept from baseball made its way into football.
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darchas wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:38 pm
aines88 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Came across 'Moneyball' the other night, my attention spiked when Jonah Hill's character started touting his method for using stats to find under valued players rather than relying on old school scouts.

Thought I'd share in case others would enjoy as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBcwGOvO80
Based on this book which has a lot more detail

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moneyball-Art- ... 0393324818

I read an article a while back which talked about the bias in the book and how things were construed to construct a compelling narrative. Interesting stuff and as always a useful exercise to get beyond the headlines.
To expand a bit further on the topic of Moneyball, very interesting match tonight that I'm looking forward to : https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54651454

If Brentford make it into the Premier League I'd imagine more clubs following suit.
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aines88 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Came across 'Moneyball' the other night, my attention spiked when Jonah Hill's character started touting his method for using stats to find under valued players rather than relying on old school scouts.

Thought I'd share in case others would enjoy as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBcwGOvO80
Great Film.
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Kai wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:08 pm
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:40 pm
I read all your posts in his accent :)
Very nice, but I don't have accent. You please come see moviefilm, it it not success I will be execute.
darchas wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:45 pm
Did you ever see Who is America? That was brilliant, some really insane stuff in that as well.
Yes. Although Kazakhstan a glorious country, it have a problem too : economic, social and Jew. It is why very important to make cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan.

Interesting story on BBC news this morning re the Kazakhs (?) taking huge offence at Borat in the past but now they have adopted the "Very Nice" quote as a slogan for the tourist board :)
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sniffer66 wrote:
Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:53 pm
Kai wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:08 pm
sniffer66 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:40 pm
I read all your posts in his accent :)
Very nice, but I don't have accent. You please come see moviefilm, it it not success I will be execute.
darchas wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:45 pm
Did you ever see Who is America? That was brilliant, some really insane stuff in that as well.
Yes. Although Kazakhstan a glorious country, it have a problem too : economic, social and Jew. It is why very important to make cultural learnings of America for make benefit glorious nation of Kazakhstan.

Interesting story on BBC news this morning re the Kazakhs (?) taking huge offence at Borat in the past but now they have adopted the "Very Nice" quote as a slogan for the tourist board :)
Haha, they absolutely should go along with that, no such thing as bad press. But yeah, plenty hate him, especially the little (gypsy/romani) village in Romania where he was shooting the first one, felt a bit sorry for them : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLeaVby ... ainChannel

Not seen the new one yet, but did hear the level of cringe is pretty ridiculous.
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darchas wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:38 pm
aines88 wrote:
Mon Oct 26, 2020 3:43 pm
Came across 'Moneyball' the other night, my attention spiked when Jonah Hill's character started touting his method for using stats to find under valued players rather than relying on old school scouts.

Thought I'd share in case others would enjoy as much as I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpBcwGOvO80
Based on this book which has a lot more detail

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Moneyball-Art- ... 0393324818

I read an article a while back which talked about the bias in the book and how things were construed to construct a compelling narrative. Interesting stuff and as always a useful exercise to get beyond the headlines.
Just ordered the book, thanks
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Apart from the Seahawks winning this was the highlight of the NFL weekend for me! :lol:

https://youtu.be/Rypv3oAbTmk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LopI4YeC4I

fitting watch for US election day as touches on people in power

also touches on NHL players; setting world records; "egocentric bias"; effects of tiny advantages compounding
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