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xtrader16 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:06 pm
Seriously, who cares about some people having a get together to discuss pretty important stuff when the blag pandemic was raging in the media. There are more important things to discuss than if somebody broke some stupid rule. Like is Putin going to nuke us or not and why has my energy bill gone up by £200 per month. Who gives a shit about Party's.
People who couldn't be with their spouse, mother or father when they died or weren't able to be at the funeral of a close relative while BJ was partying won't just give a shit, they'll want to ram it down BJ's throat!
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xtrader16 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:06 pm
Seriously, who cares about some people having a get together to discuss pretty important stuff when the blag pandemic was raging in the media. There are more important things to discuss than if somebody broke some stupid rule. Like is Putin going to nuke us or not and why has my energy bill gone up by £200 per month. Who gives a shit about Party's.
Not me :D ,

I don't support any party or side, outside of trading it I don't really care or have much interest in politics at all, hence I've never bothered voting (except one election when I'd just turned 18 just because I now could) and that includes the referendu also because I wasn't bothered if we stayed in or out

As a total neutral observer and seeing things clearly and objectively as well as the bigger picture of what matters its been quite an few years just watching both sides trying to tear each other apart as well as themselves up in knots and in some cases even to the point of self-combusting over Brexit!
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Dallas wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:24 pm
...hence I've never bothered voting (except one election when I'd just turned 18 just because I now could) and that includes the referendu also because I wasn't bothered if we stayed in or out
Do you constantly get hassled by people telling you you're wasting your vote, people die for the right to vote, etc.

When I never voted or had any interest in politics I was once seriously considering voting Conservative (Thatcher) just to shut everybody up!
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:51 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:24 pm
...hence I've never bothered voting (except one election when I'd just turned 18 just because I now could) and that includes the referendu also because I wasn't bothered if we stayed in or out
Do you constantly get hassled by people telling you you're wasting your vote, people die for the right to vote, etc.

When I never voted or had any interest in politics I was once seriously considering voting Conservative (Thatcher) just to shut everybody up!
No, I can't say I have tbh

Its probably because people around me all know I've never had any interest in it so don't tend to bother me it
I don't socialise that much but when I do politics is not really a subject that ever comes up in conversation except maybe an odd reference to the latest headline.

But I do know people from the same family who haven't spoken or had any direct contact since around 2017 due to disagreements over Brexit - Its just so bizarre how they (and many others) have gotten so entrenched and divided by an opposing view on a single issue
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I bet Starmer wishes he consumed a ham salad sandwich with a cup of tea now. :lol:
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Daily Mail: Tory MPs accuse Starmer of piling on the pressure on the police. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:51 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:24 pm
...hence I've never bothered voting (except one election when I'd just turned 18 just because I now could) and that includes the referendu also because I wasn't bothered if we stayed in or out
Do you constantly get hassled by people telling you you're wasting your vote, people die for the right to vote, etc.
We are effectively living under an elective dictatorship with no true opposition. This will become clearer over the next 10 years. Policies are dictated at global level no matter which party is voted in, that's why we see the same sort of policies coming in to different countries across the world at the same time.

If you don't believe me then ask yourself who voted in all these extra taxes for driving cars in cities, who voted to teach children to choose their gender at age 5, who voted for economically and socially damaging restrictions, who voted to spend £37 billion on a pointless track and trace app, who voted to let in tens of thousands of refugees, who voted to send billions to Ukraine while our own citizens live in poverty, who voted for these new laws coming that silently remove some human rights and free speech?

People fought and died for democracy, to avoid a lot of what's happening now.

If the government is conservative then why are we seeing a far-left takeover that's anything but conservative?
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alexmr2 wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 2:02 am
Derek27 wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:51 pm
Dallas wrote:
Mon May 09, 2022 4:24 pm
...hence I've never bothered voting (except one election when I'd just turned 18 just because I now could) and that includes the referendu also because I wasn't bothered if we stayed in or out
Do you constantly get hassled by people telling you you're wasting your vote, people die for the right to vote, etc.
We are effectively living under an elective dictatorship with no true opposition. This will become clearer over the next 10 years. Policies are dictated at global level no matter which party is voted in, that's why we see the same sort of policies coming in to different countries across the world at the same time.

If you don't believe me then ask yourself who voted in all these extra taxes for driving cars in cities, who voted to teach children to choose their gender at age 5, who voted for economically and socially damaging restrictions, who voted to spend £37 billion on a pointless track and trace app, who voted to let in tens of thousands of refugees, who voted to send billions to Ukraine while our own citizens live in poverty, who voted for these new laws coming that silently remove some human rights and free speech?

People fought and died for democracy, to avoid a lot of what's happening now.

If the government is conservative then why are we seeing a far-left takeover that's anything but conservative?
There is no such thing as an "elective dictatorship". You're talking bollocks, as usual, and this will become clearer over the next 10 years. (If I'm wrong, let me know in 10 years time).

The answer to all your "who voted?" questions is, nobody votes for what happens, people vote for a party that chooses what happens. Do you have a link to the story about teaching children to choose their gender at the age of five?

The simple answer to your last question is, we are not seeing a far-left takeover. You are seeing a far-left takeover. I would have thought by now you'd realise you see the opposite of what sane people see, so use I instead of we. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 3:34 am

There is no such thing as an "elective dictatorship".

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The answer to all your "who voted?" questions is, nobody votes for what happens, people vote for a party that chooses what happens.
Point proven
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Number of Downing Street fines has doubled, Sue Gray report still to come. :D
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It's now Labour front benchers calling for the PM's resignation rather than Starmer himself.
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Martin Reynolds has received his punishment for Partygate - he's to become UK ambassador to Saudi Arabia!
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 6:02 pm
Martin Reynolds has received his punishment for Partygate - he's to become UK ambassador to Saudi Arabia!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Latest tally: 83 people received a total of 126 fixed penalty notices. Still no news of anyone getting the £10K fine for organising events!

The investigation cost £460K, but assuming the fines were £50 each, at least they clawed back £6300. :)
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I love these "the ABC cost £XYZ" comments ... that's only the case if you wouldn't have employed those conducting the investigation or had to employ others to do other jobs! The 'cost' is what the staff/resources would have done instead but didn't. I'm assuming in the main the staff conducting the review were pen-pushers so the 'cost' was that they could have pushed different pens!
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