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jamesg46
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:27 pm
Archery1969 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:15 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:07 pm

Launderette customers are a minority. It's down the rest of us to observe the advice/laws. Those launderette customers, and also key workers (which i believe includes teachers and shopworkers, unlike the welsh govt) have no choice. The rest of us do. So we should make the right choice. Every time we breach the advice we have blood on our hands.
Simple.
My main point was not that there using a launderette but that none of them had a mask on or observing social distancing.
Yes, i got that. I just thought it was worth emphasising the role that people who have choices have to play.
I could witter on about breaches I see every day, don't even start me on how uncomfortable I feel in supermarkets right now with people getting too close, but I think we should all stick to the script till this over. Not doing so just extends it. It's a tiny incrmenental effect for each person. It's the collective impact that matters. Our adversory is an evolutionary phenomenon that doesn't give two hoots about loss of socialising or economic impacts.
Until this is over? The slogan is "The new normal" the slogans offer a sense of direction we saw that in the elections. I'd be shocked if we ever got back to the old normal, at this point I feel that is a fantasy.
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With or without vaccines or lockdowns the virus will run its course eventually and disappear so things will return to normal at some point.

The Spanish Flu killed millions and spread unchecked but only lasted a couple of years.
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greenmark wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:27 pm
...but I think we should all stick to the script till this over.
Sticking to the script means doing whatever you want and claiming you're testing your eyes! It has been confirmed by the prime minister himself that by doing this you're doing absolutely nothing wrong. An alternative interpretation is, the advice is contradictory as he claimed you should stay at home but conversely claims there is not one rule for us and another rule for Cummings so you can take your pick!

My approach to social distancing is simple, don't meet people unless it's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives. But it's my decision, not BJ's. :D
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:06 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:27 pm
...but I think we should all stick to the script till this over.
Sticking to the script means doing whatever you want and claiming you're testing your eyes! It has been confirmed by the prime minister himself that by doing this you're doing absolutely nothing wrong. An alternative interpretation is, the advice is contradictory as he claimed you should stay at home but conversely claims there is not one rule for us and another rule for Cummings so you can take your pick!

My approach to social distancing is simple, don't meet people unless it's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives. But it's my decision, not BJ's. :D
It goes like this,

You're safe to do this but don't do that... we will do that though while you're doing this. Going to work is safe for thee but not for me.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:06 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:27 pm
...but I think we should all stick to the script till this over.
Sticking to the script means doing whatever you want and claiming you're testing your eyes! It has been confirmed by the prime minister himself that by doing this you're doing absolutely nothing wrong. An alternative interpretation is, the advice is contradictory as he claimed you should stay at home but conversely claims there is not one rule for us and another rule for Cummings so you can take your pick!

My approach to social distancing is simple, don't meet people unless it's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives. But it's my decision, not BJ's. :D
It goes like this,

You're safe to do this but don't do that... we will do that though while you're doing this. Going to work is safe for thee but not for me.
That goes along with my logic, what's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives.

When you hear the advice, brush your teeth for 5 minutes, wash your hands for 20 seconds, don't meet in groups of more than 6; that's advice for the lowest common denominator. Intelligent people don't need a stopwatch to brush their teeth or wash their hands. 6 is a stupid limit. It might be necessary for 7 to meet, conversely, it might be unjustifiable for 3 people to meet.

You can now buy toothbrushes with timers on them to tell you when your teeth is clean - you don't even have to put it in your mouth and your teeth will be clean after 5 minutes. :lol:

Wash your hands for 20 seconds is particularly stupid advice. When I've been skinning chicken legs I wash my hands for at least a minute. Now they're telling me I'm too hygienic and have to reduce my level of handwashing!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:23 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:06 pm

Sticking to the script means doing whatever you want and claiming you're testing your eyes! It has been confirmed by the prime minister himself that by doing this you're doing absolutely nothing wrong. An alternative interpretation is, the advice is contradictory as he claimed you should stay at home but conversely claims there is not one rule for us and another rule for Cummings so you can take your pick!

My approach to social distancing is simple, don't meet people unless it's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives. But it's my decision, not BJ's. :D
It goes like this,

You're safe to do this but don't do that... we will do that though while you're doing this. Going to work is safe for thee but not for me.
That goes along with my logic, what's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives.

When you hear the advice, brush your teeth for 5 minutes, wash your hands for 20 seconds, don't meet in groups of more than 6; that's advice for the lowest common denominator. Intelligent people don't need a stopwatch to brush their teeth or wash their hands. 6 is a stupid limit. It might be necessary for 7 to meet, conversely, it might be unjustifiable for 3 people to meet.

You can now by toothbrushes with timers on them to tell you when you're teeth is clean - you don't even have to put it in your mouth and your teeth will be clean after 5 minutes. :lol:

Wash your hands for 20 seconds is particularly stupid advice. When I've been skinning chicken legs I wash my hands for at least a minute. Now they're telling me I'm too hygienic and have to reduce my level of handwashing!
Thank god common sense without instructions still exists, this post is proof. I started to feel that we are all living by instruction of the health and safety signs. If there is fire I dont need a sign to tell me the door is flipping exit... ill just exit.
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Has anyone had a relationship with somebody who spends 90% of their time talking on the phone and the remainder texting? Is it even possible?

I ask this as I"m sitting at the dinner table with her. :roll:
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...and 50 minutes on she still hasn't finished her dinner!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:45 pm
Has anyone had a relationship with somebody who spends 90% of their time talking on the phone and the remainder texting? Is it even possible?

I ask this as I"m sitting at the dinner table with her. :roll:
On your phone? Lead by example... lay down the rules at the dinner table and be sure to respond to any breach with swift, sharp and decisive violence, like a thist slam on the table surface... hopefully at this point you're getting my sarcasm.
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Not just the Forum you bore to tears then....
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Atho55 wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:23 am
Not just the Forum you bore to tears then....
She's eager to come back so I can't be that boring. :)
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Maybe she thinks it's some kind of soup kitchen and it's just the free dinners that tempt her back. Are you a good cook?
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spreadbetting wrote:
Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:35 am
Maybe she thinks it's some kind of soup kitchen and it's just the free dinners that tempt her back. Are you a good cook?
Adequate. She's made it clear she wants to be with me.....assuming the guy who was at a gathering a week ago and tested positive hasn't passed it on to her and then me!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:06 pm
My approach to social distancing is simple, don't meet people unless it's necessary, reasonable and justifiable after considering the alternatives. But it's my decision, not BJ's. :D
Agreed except I would certainly remove the "reasonable" and maybe the "justifiable" as well. If it's "necessary" then it will be "reasonable" and "justifiable" ... they are just opportunities to use as loopholes. The problem is we are a nation of rule benders. If we can find a way around a rule we will use it.

In yesterday's Downing Street Briefing the Top Plod (not intended to be derogatory, can't remember his name) recited a few cases of incredulous behaviour including someone on social media advertising a 'rave' (look at me, I'm going to break the law ... why not join me and do it to drugs and music!) and a mini-bus with I think 30+ morons on board from different households driving from Bristol to South Wales to go for a walk! With people like that there is no hope for our species!
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:45 pm
Has anyone had a relationship with somebody who spends 90% of their time talking on the phone and the remainder texting? Is it even possible?

I ask this as I"m sitting at the dinner table with her. :roll:
Why not send her a text over dinner and start a text convo?

My neighbour's daughter once sent her father a text asking him to make her a cup of tea and bring it to her in her bedroom!! Now that girl has style (and she's a bit of a looker ;) ). :lol:
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