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Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:43 pm
Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next. The next generations will pay it back. Coincidentally the same generations suffering the most from the restrictions (kids-graduates) missing out on developing physically, mentally, socially and of course had their education, career or business disrupted and dreams crushed
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alexmr2 wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next.
Indeed.

Is this kind of stuff a valid use of public money by the NHS (in the middle of a pandemic)?!

https://twitter.com/NHS_HealthEdEng/sta ... 3732851714

https://youtu.be/5n1pRLtdLFs

The state is out of control. If a Tory govt. with an 80-seat majority won't do anything to rein them in, then we really are going to hell in a handcart.
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BJ's rewarded the nurses who saved his life with a 1% pay rise, less than half of that if you factor in inflation. :lol:
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 7:10 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 6:36 pm
Not much of a concern for these people in charge who are nearing retirement and laughing all the way to the bank regardless of what happens next.
Indeed.

Is this kind of stuff a valid use of public money by the NHS (in the middle of a pandemic)?!

https://twitter.com/NHS_HealthEdEng/sta ... 3732851714

https://youtu.be/5n1pRLtdLFs

The state is out of control. If a Tory govt. with an 80-seat majority won't do anything to rein them in, then we really are going to hell in a handcart.
I think it all comes down to decades of unsustainable greed which will probably never be eradicated by humans. One of the examples that comes to mind was a few years back when Carillion was charging the NHS £70 to change a lightbulb/£20 to refill hand sanitiser boxes, obviously going into someones back pocket along the way when the taxpayer is getting such bad value at the end of the day. it's basically legalised money laundering on a large scale
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alexmr2 wrote:
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:23 am
I think it all comes down to decades of unsustainable greed which will probably never be eradicated by humans. One of the examples that comes to mind was a few years back when Carillion was charging the NHS £70 to change a lightbulb/£20 to refill hand sanitiser boxes, obviously going into someones back pocket along the way when the taxpayer is getting such bad value at the end of the day. it's basically legalised money laundering on a large scale
I suspect you could provide better public services at half the cost if they were properly run and had the politics, corruption and waste weeded out.

Of course the lazy solution of socialists is always to simply throw good money after bad. Sadly this government is no better.
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I've thought (and said) for a long time the way to cut down the massive waste in an organisation like the NHS is to employ people good at just that - Jim Ratcliffe (Ineos) made his fortune being good at just that and spotting the opportunities.

Surely you could get a team of people like Jim Ratcliffe or Alan Sugar and the like to spend a year looking at and weeding out the NHS wastage. The NHS used to cost £120bn per year and I've always thought such people could save £40bn of that - give them half so that they are paid for their expertise and efforts.

In the first year the NHS would save £20bn and thereafter (until there are new fingers in the pies) it would save £40bn! Simple economics! Of course there would be those thinking it's abhorrent for a team to make £20bn in a year, but they would actually be saving the NHS £20bn in the first year.
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superfrank wrote:
Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:43 pm
Sunak's budget a cop out. Corbyn could have produced it.

He should have slashed spending and tackled the bloated sacred cow that is the NHS (and the public sector in general) - that's what Mrs Thatcher would have done, and rightly so.

Prepare for European style stagnation.
No backbone, just look at the Rashford saga
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Sky News announced zero covid deaths for today before later reporting it as erroneous. It should have been obvious people don't stop dying because it's Sunday!
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Deaths down to double figures now. Feels a bit ironic to say only 65 people died yesterday. :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0H-UCN7rg

Hard to tell if the vaccine is having any effects on the markets yet
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alexmr2 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0H-UCN7rg

Hard to tell if the vaccine is having any effects on the markets yet
:lol: :lol: No need to pretend the video's about the vaccine or the markets, just put your message out with the usual intro and we can all have a good laugh. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:21 am
alexmr2 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0H-UCN7rg

Hard to tell if the vaccine is having any effects on the markets yet
:lol: :lol: No need to pretend the video's about the vaccine or the markets, just put your message out with the usual intro and we can all have a good laugh. :)
Any video or article that contains opinion from David Icke immediately loses any credibility.
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:53 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:21 am
alexmr2 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:57 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu0H-UCN7rg

Hard to tell if the vaccine is having any effects on the markets yet
:lol: :lol: No need to pretend the video's about the vaccine or the markets, just put your message out with the usual intro and we can all have a good laugh. :)
Any video or article that contains opinion from David Icke immediately loses any credibility.
Was that Jesus himself - I didn't even recognise him. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:02 pm
greenmark wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 9:53 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:21 am

:lol: :lol: No need to pretend the video's about the vaccine or the markets, just put your message out with the usual intro and we can all have a good laugh. :)
Any video or article that contains opinion from David Icke immediately loses any credibility.
Was that Jesus himself - I didn't even recognise him. :lol:
He's the first self-constructed nutter I remember. He was a pioneer though. Peddling complete cobblers to gain attention (and probably an income). Now with the reach of the internet it's become an industry.
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