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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:57 pm
jimibt wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:49 pm
alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:30 pm
Sage Professor John Edmunds says that lockdowns, masks and social distancing are lowering peoples natural immunities, so he expects a worse flu season this year, which may lead to more lockdowns, masks and social distancing
was wondering where you sourced this as (altho maybe true), it flies at odds with what he said on the Andrew Marr show yesterday - a small section quoted here: https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/sage ... 20636.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-heal ... xt-winter/
Six of one, half a dozen of another. There's no golden bullet so you'll always find flaws in any solution but the flu doesn't cause pneumonia to the extent that covid does.
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...some people want to believe all sorts of things - who cares, let them - we're not short of sane people on this earth so if a few million go 'Waco' it doesn't really matter.

Let them believe their bs, like these Trump betting losers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ISWW33POkc (Fintan Dunne)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gc-MMYjzfQ (Mark Attwood)
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Covid vaccines - 'spectacular' impact on serious illness
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56153600
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Tuco wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm
...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds :lol:

Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend :)
Traffic was backed up left right and centre around there on Friday when I went past, looked quiet Sat & Sun
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Merseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html

Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.

You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
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superfrank wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pm
Merseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html

Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.

You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Shouldn't this be in Rant Corner?
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:04 pm
Traffic was backed up left right and centre around there on Friday when I went past, looked quiet Sat & Sun
...very little traffic as I went there at 12:50pm today :)
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:04 pm
superfrank wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pm
Merseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html

Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.

You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Shouldn't this be in Rant Corner?
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
The more you salute the tyrants, the more freedoms they take.

Rights like freedom of speech, peaceful protesting and a private home (need a warrant and evidence to enter) will soon be a thing of the past, or should I say already are
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Tuco wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm
...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds :lol:

Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend :)
Let us know of any side effects. I reckon I'll get jab one mid-april. I can't wait tbh.
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alexmr2 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:30 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 7:04 pm
superfrank wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:27 pm
Merseyside Police was forced to clarify that “being offensive is not an offence” after a local policing team shared an “incorrect” statement stating the opposite on the side of a van in Wirral.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/m ... 20760.html

Look at the clowns, they don't even know their own laws.

You'd have thought they might have better things to do, like giving people fines for sitting on a park bench, important stuff like that!
Shouldn't this be in Rant Corner?
Anyway, I take your point, but would suggest allowing our hard-pressed frontline services deserve some latitude. Mistakes have/will be made in these weird times but I would defend all front line workers. The list of selfless people is as long as your arm and I salute them.
The more you salute the tyrants, the more freedoms they take.

Rights like freedom of speech, peaceful protesting and a private home (need a warrant and evidence to enter) will soon be a thing of the past, or should I say already are
So, the ambulance driver and paramedic that picks you up from the roadside when you have a serious accident and the NHS workers who treat you in A&E are now tyrants?
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greenmark wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:33 pm
Tuco wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm
...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds :lol:

Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend :)
Let us know of any side effects. I reckon I'll get jab one mid-april. I can't wait tbh.
If Tuco stops posting you'll know what the side-effect is. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:55 pm
greenmark wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:33 pm
Tuco wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:55 pm
...just back from Epsom Racecourse where I received an AstraZeneca Covid-19 jab - very efficient service - received an invite on Saturday morning and landed a 'fastest finger' as I'd booked for 13:10 today within 30 seconds :lol:

Thought I'd better book for Monday in case I feel rough for a few days, and if so, should be OK by the weekend :)
Let us know of any side effects. I reckon I'll get jab one mid-april. I can't wait tbh.
If Tuco stops posting you'll know what the side-effect is. ;)
if i could buy a jab I would.
I just have to wait in line.
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Looks like the rumours of vaccine passports coming here like Israel, and a company being contracted by the UK Government to work on them in June 2020 could be true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3lbfiFBENY

No jab(s) every 6 months no job, no entry to the pub, no hospital or dental treatment, no school, no entry to buy food at the supermarket. Papers ready at all times!
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alexmr2 wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:35 pm
Looks like the rumours of vaccine passports coming here like Israel, and a company being contracted by the UK Government to work on them in June 2020 could be true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3lbfiFBENY

No jab(s) every 6 months no job, no entry to the pub, no hospital or dental treatment, no school, no entry to buy food at the supermarket. Papers ready at all times!
You're starting to hear things Alex. That news clip said nothing about requiring a jab every 6 months, no entry to hospital or dentists, schools, or supermarkets. Interesting though, that you believe what you hear on mainstream media if you like it. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:43 am
You're starting to hear things Alex. That news clip said nothing about requiring a jab every 6 months, no entry to hospital or dentists, schools, or supermarkets. Interesting though, that you believe what you hear on mainstream media if you like it. :)
Being mentioned on the mainstream media makes it easier to share as a credible source instead of an independent one which will be called a conspiracy theory.

Israel has this system where a vaccine pass is valid for 6 months and it looks like they expect vaccinations to be ongoing here too.
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Now children are being forced to wear masks all day in classrooms at school (even though they said this would never happen a few months ago and many scientific studies say masks don't work and do more harm than good), you only have to look at the similarities in results between countries which did and didn't use them to confirm this. Also corporate scientists (spokespeople funded by pharmaceutical companies) are talking about having all children injected with Covid vaccines. Children aren't at risk from Covid at all, whilst the long term effects of the vaccines are completely unknown.

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-uk- ... t-12224817

Am I still the only one who is sceptical of all this?
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