Betfair in Slovakia

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lostdesper
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Hi,

is there anyone from Slovakia who's trading on Betfair right now?

Thinking about move to this country, but I'm not sure if Betfair is legal there? I do know they provide their services for Slovakian customers, but don't know if I can trade on betfair with 100% sure it's legal.

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weemac
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I lived there for 7 years until a couple of years ago. One day, about 4 years ago, Betfair was suddenly blocked, but from the wording of the announcement they clearly knew that people would find ways to get around it. It seemed more of a government-led block to protect their own state monopolised industries, rather than outright illegality.

A difficult enough place to go and live when I was there - a very 'Communistic', racist and bureaucratic system, with poor healthcare, rubbish infrastructure, and an almost impossible language to learn, without which you won't stand a chance. Much harder now since Brexit, I'd imagine. You can't just turn up and live there.

Why do you want to live there, cheap housing and alcohol apart?
lostdesper
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Thanks for Your reply.

I'm looking to country near to mine which is Poland. Few years ago polish government locked all "outside" bookies with new gambling law. Even before this law the situation in Poland was like: you can open betfair account and trade, but You cannot make this money legal. So the same is now in Slovakia? I mean I can open account there, but can't make it works properly? I'm not againts paying taxes or somethink like that
weemac
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It was all OK and legal 2-3 years ago, but laws can change very suddenly. I don't know the situation now, but you can usually find out a lot by using google to ask your questions and reading government documents online.

Dobru noc.
Vladimir CC
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you might find hungary a better fit. BF is fully legal there. hope it stays that way
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Derek27
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weemac wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:03 am
Why do you want to live there, cheap housing and alcohol apart?
You need more reason?
weemac
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:59 pm
weemac wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:03 am
Why do you want to live there, cheap housing and alcohol apart?
You need more reason?
Cheap fags too - under £2.50 a pack (of 19, for some reason).
marcusvvv
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Vladimir CC wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 pm
you might find hungary a better fit. BF is fully legal there. hope it stays that way
any links? betfair have license in Hungary?
Vladimir CC
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marcusvvv wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 3:06 pm
Vladimir CC wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 pm
you might find hungary a better fit. BF is fully legal there. hope it stays that way
any links? betfair have license in Hungary?
bf redirects to hungarian version when detecting hungarian ip.
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ODPaul82
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:59 pm
weemac wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:03 am
Why do you want to live there, cheap housing and alcohol apart?
You need more reason?
I confer with weemac having lived in Kosice for 3 years
Cost of living, awesome
The people, not so much. My ex saw me as a walking cash-point and super-super racist. Everything felt like it was still a communist state from the behaviour of people to the pre-fab architecture

I learnt enough Slovakian to get by, pronouncing it I was a laughing joke at their expense

My advice for anyone would be to get yourself over to England, sort out an English bank account and then invest in a VPS
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Derek27
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:41 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:59 pm
weemac wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:03 am
Why do you want to live there, cheap housing and alcohol apart?
You need more reason?
I confer with weemac having lived in Kosice for 3 years
Cost of living, awesome
The people, not so much. My ex saw me as a walking cash-point and super-super racist. Everything felt like it was still a communist state from the behaviour of people to the pre-fab architecture

I learnt enough Slovakian to get by, pronouncing it I was a laughing joke at their expense

My advice for anyone would be to get yourself over to England, sort out an English bank account and then invest in a VPS
It's funny, when you do a google search for "images of <name of country> girls", you immediately wish you were there until you realise they can't all be that beautiful. :lol:

Cheap beer, cigarettes and low cost of living sounds quite tempting but I certainly wouldn't want to be in a racist or communist-like country.
marcusvvv
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Vladimir CC wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 8:04 pm
marcusvvv wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 3:06 pm
Vladimir CC wrote:
Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 pm
you might find hungary a better fit. BF is fully legal there. hope it stays that way
any links? betfair have license in Hungary?
bf redirects to hungarian version when detecting hungarian ip.
So you want to tell me that if you earn 100k euro on betfair and buy a flat for this or apartment, if the piggy bank (tax institution) asks you where did you take the money from, you will answer them: look see betfair website redirect to the Hungarian version so it's 100% legal ? :D :lol:
you make my night :lol: .

What are the taxes on winnings from unlicensed bookmakers in Hungary?
https://simonsblogpark.com/onlinegambli ... -gambling/

"For players, taxation of gambling winnings: Players don’t need to pay taxes on gambling wins if it’s from legally operating licensed operators. However, players do need to pay taxes on winnings from unlicensed sources (this is rarely enforced, unless it’s about really big amounts, but it’s still illegal if you don’t pay taxes on your gambling wins from foreign, unlicensed online casinos or sports betting websites)."
Vladimir CC
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thanks for the info then. there's no need to be so vehement
weemac
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Generations of Slovaks over middle age are desperate for a return to full-on Communism. (The younger folk are instead desperate to leave the country.) As a friend there told me, under Communism you had a job, a roof over your head and food on the table - everything was done for you. What he didn't seem to appreciate was the dismal, often hidden cost of achieving that, especially an almost total loss of freedom. He seemed to think that was a good thing - it saves you having to think and make tough decisions! The state does your thinking for you.

Amazing how you can travel 2 hours on a plane and then feel like you're living in some parallel universe. Mind you, the way we comfortable Westerners live, behave and think is an aberration. It won't always be like this.
Alberto322
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Not sure, man, but my advice would be that even if it doesn't work, try to keep yourself from going on some other sucper sketchy sites. Stick with what's legal.
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