How many hours do you trade?

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Hours per week spent on trading or trading-related activity.

Poll ended at Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:21 pm

Over 80 hours
6
13%
70 to 80 hours
1
2%
60 to 70 hours
4
9%
50 to 60 hours
0
No votes
40 to 50 hours
4
9%
30 to 40 hours
5
11%
20 to 30 hours
13
28%
10 to 20 hours
9
20%
Less than 10 hours
4
9%
 
Total votes: 46
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Derek27
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alexmr2 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:09 pm
Struggling manual pre-off trader, I'd say around 25 hours

Usually 7 days per week. 2-3 hours of trading, 1-2 hours watching videos, reviewing recordings, on forums or talking to other traders

Would spend more time on it (especially if I was profitable :lol: ) but don't know what else I can do TBH. I used to spend more time but found that after 3 years videos/audiobooks are just going over what I already know. More importantly I find trading pre-off mentally draining, it's hard to focus after a couple of hours so those days trading from 1-8pm aren't an efficient use of time compared to getting a good couple of hours in. Sometimes venture into other stuff but I've always been of the belief that it's better to focus 100% on pre-off order flow than to get mixed up doing different things before I've mastered one
I had an old family friend who spent 3/4 years at uni studying medicine. He quit because he found it too difficult, got a degree & masters in computer science or engineering and has had a successful career in IT.

Unlike him, you've always got the option of going back to pre-race horse racing and are not likely to forget what you've learnt if you try your hand at another sport. Or you could learn another sport on the side and see if there's any potential.
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Seth wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 pm
megarain wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:14 pm
I genuinely work 14 hrs a day, and could easily do 20 hrs a day, if I wouldn't fall over.

The opportunities are out there - it's just how bad you want the +EV.
14 hours a day!!! Is that all week? I can't imagine I'd find a spare 14 hours in a day tbh. Where do you even get the time to spend the winnings?
It may seem extreme, but I have access to live pics from USA/Aus/S.Africa/Uk. That pretty much covers the world, 24/7.

I find 10-14 hrs work, 4 hrs golf, 6 hrs sleep is ok. I have v little wasted travel time.
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megarain wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 4:41 pm
Seth wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 pm
megarain wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 10:14 pm
I genuinely work 14 hrs a day, and could easily do 20 hrs a day, if I wouldn't fall over.

The opportunities are out there - it's just how bad you want the +EV.
14 hours a day!!! Is that all week? I can't imagine I'd find a spare 14 hours in a day tbh. Where do you even get the time to spend the winnings?
It may seem extreme, but I have access to live pics from USA/Aus/S.Africa/Uk. That pretty much covers the world, 24/7.

I find 10-14 hrs work, 4 hrs golf, 6 hrs sleep is ok. I have v little wasted travel time.
I take it your good wife does the cooking and sees to the housekeeping but you still need time to eat, shower, pub, etc?
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:30 pm
LinusP wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:15 pm
About 15hrs of programming / strategy development for me, aiming for at least 5 of those to be in the zone on a good week.
It's the programming that really sends my hours into overdrive on the odd week when I get stuck into some. As you know, time flies by when you're coding.
Yep, I can spend weeks trying but doing nothing and then get into the zone and achieve more in 30 minutes, for me it’s become all about taking advantage when this happens and doing something else when not..
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30-40 hours, although a lot of that is procrastrinating so don't know if it should count or not.

Researching tennis is the vast majority of it, I spend more time researching matches then I do actually trading them I'd say.
Bit of VBA (still not moving to Python, 22 years of making sweet love to a non-interpreted single threaded baby gotta be a whole lot of loving to come from Python and just not feeling it).
Football research takes 5 minutes of loading up my tool FATI (Football Analysis Trading Intellligence, modelled around my waistline for the name)

At the moment I'm spending a bit more time looking at the horses as never able to crack it manually and my discipline sucks big time with it. I know full well that it's my headset rather doing anything wrong, so looking at automation. Have something around applying statistical process controls on volatile markets but purely a work in progress.

I love trading for the fact that it's always learning something new or trying something new to just grow yourself. If you sit still someone will overtake you.
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pm
30-40 hours, although a lot of that is procrastrinating so don't know if it should count or not.
My 60+ hours includes the time I pop out for a fag between markets. I have Sky News on in the background and often get distracted by those anchor ladies, reporters or like an hour ago when that twit BJ gave his explanation of the shortages that compelled me to post to the forum. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:51 pm
ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pm
30-40 hours, although a lot of that is procrastrinating so don't know if it should count or not.
My 60+ hours includes the time I pop out for a fag between markets. I have Sky News on in the background and often get distracted by those anchor ladies, reporters or like an hour ago when that twit BJ gave his explanation of the shortages that compelled me to post to the forum. :)
I vape or at least attempt to when trading tennis as I do need to be at the machine. Football I can go off, have a smoke, have a bit of a fumble with myself, follow on phone (hand washed of course)
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5 in the over 80 category. :shock: Beginning to feel I'm not working hard enough. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:43 pm
5 in the over 80 category. :shock: Beginning to feel I'm not working hard enough. :lol:
how much time you spend thinking about trading ?
Should get you there.
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decomez6 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:33 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:43 pm
5 in the over 80 category. :shock: Beginning to feel I'm not working hard enough. :lol:
how much time you spend thinking about trading ?
Should get you there.
I went to bed last night thinking about an imminent automation project and the basic structure of the code. I think that's what sent me to sleep. :lol:

I often dream of ladders and numbers that conform to tick prices. If you include dreams it should easily be possible to amass 20 hours a day. :)
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:lol: :lol:
If trading is the love of your life , and it takes nine months to make babies ,you should expect a lot of trading baby bots .
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 10:43 pm
5 in the over 80 category. :shock: Beginning to feel I'm not working hard enough. :lol:

If you are counting the forum as trading hours too then you must be well over the 80, derek.

You were on here from the early hours of yesterday right through until now, with not much time for any sleep . Makes me wonder where you find the time to trade your obscure football markets !

I reckon I actually work around 40/50 hours a week, though if you are counting reading about, thinking about and listening to or watching sports / trading / gambling too, then I’m well over the 80.
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ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 8:10 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:51 pm
ODPaul82 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pm
30-40 hours, although a lot of that is procrastrinating so don't know if it should count or not.
My 60+ hours includes the time I pop out for a fag between markets. I have Sky News on in the background and often get distracted by those anchor ladies, reporters or like an hour ago when that twit BJ gave his explanation of the shortages that compelled me to post to the forum. :)
I vape or at least attempt to when trading tennis as I do need to be at the machine. Football I can go off, have a smoke, have a bit of a fumble with myself, follow on phone (hand washed of course)
:D :D

Vaper here as well. Helps me concentrate. Total fumbler as well :)

There's a great Micky Flanagan dialogue where he wishes he'd cut down on all the w***ing....
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