Dallas : How can you track wins/losses of a strategy

[Derek27]

derek it is simple

can you win at dutching on betfair = yes

are there players who beat blackjack = yes

can the average player beat blackjack = no


he wants to argue this same point over and over and over - about statistics being that there is no-one who can truly win at blackjack - well he has no idea to be fair.

then I say for form integration - you would use your DB and PF + obviously your filters and selection -- then he wants to say -- blah blah blah - 2 sources etc etc -- he simply has no clue


Every persons thought process is driven by their experience -- why should I engage with him - when he has no clue about certain things - and there is no way to prove it -- because he has not participated in certain things.

It is like when you said to me where did you work Bank of England ? No CB jobs yeah they are important but they are not traders -- CBs would call me to ask about the market and market conditions - and what my thought process was about the market -- then they would call back and have me execute their transactions.... pretty much every famous investor you have ever heard of - I have dealt for at one point or another.

So you say to me - lets talk about trading .. honestly I would rather not - because our experience levels are so far apart.

That is what you do not seem to grasp ... it would be like you telling me about gardening as an example- you would be wasting your time even starting because I have zero knowledge to communicate with you about it.

Who the fuck is he??? Several people have tried to communicate with you. If you can't even quote somebody's name nobody's going to have a clue who you're talking about.

I've asked you before what you mean by "form integration". If you can't understand and answer such a simple question the problem is entirely with you, nobody else!

He says blah, blah, blah, does he? How the fuck do I give an opinion with that much detail?

I asked about your former job several days ago. You ignore the question and then answer it when the conversation has moved on.

I think the real problem is you're having difficulty reading or confusing one person for another. I never said, "let's talk about trading". I can assure you it's just a figment of your imagination. If I'm wrong, quote it.

You keep complaining that people are rude, people are making false claims, etc. Just quote the flipping text. Look at the video that Kai kindly posted and quote what you're talking about. If you can't even understand how to use a forum website you're beyond help!

[jimibt]

derek it is simple

can you win at dutching on betfair = yes

are there players who beat blackjack = yes

can the average player beat blackjack = no


he wants to argue this same point over and over and over - about statistics being that there is no-one who can truly win at blackjack - well he has no idea to be fair.

then I say for form integration - you would use your DB and PF + obviously your filters and selection -- then he wants to say -- blah blah blah - 2 sources etc etc -- he simply has no clue


Every persons thought process is driven by their experience -- why should I engage with him - when he has no clue about certain things - and there is no way to prove it -- because he has not participated in certain things.

It is like when you said to me where did you work Bank of England ? No CB jobs yeah they are important but they are not traders -- CBs would call me to ask about the market and market conditions - and what my thought process was about the market -- then they would call back and have me execute their transactions.... pretty much every famous investor you have ever heard of - I have dealt for at one point or another.

So you say to me - lets talk about trading .. honestly I would rather not - because our experience levels are so far apart.

That is what you do not seem to grasp ... it would be like you telling me about gardening as an example- you would be wasting your time even starting because I have zero knowledge to communicate with you about it.

Who the fuck is he??? Several people have tried to communicate with you. If you can't even quote somebody's name nobody's going to have a clue who you're talking about.

I've asked you before what you mean by "form integration". If you can't understand and answer such a simple question the problem is entirely with you, nobody else!

He says blah, blah, blah, does he? How the fuck do I give an opinion with that much detail?

I asked about your former job several days ago. You ignore the question and then answer it when the conversation has moved on.

I think the real problem is you're having difficulty reading or confusing one person for another. I never said, "let's talk about trading". I can assure you it's just a figment of your imagination. If I'm wrong, quote it.

You keep complaining that people are rude, people are making false claims, etc. Just quote the flipping text. Look at the video that Kai kindly posted and quote what you're talking about. If you can't even understand how to use a forum website you're beyond help!

at the end of the day, i still circle back to this rudeness:

Let's be clear here and recap your actions:

you asked me a question - I gave you an answer : then you started with this whole my resume is this - I am a full time bettor - blah blah blah

Like I said to you - this is not something that you do - it is not normal to try to intimidate people by going down that route.

Your resume is of a low level financial employee - that is easily replaceable at a moments notice - that skill set is vanilla.

Anyway like I said - if you have strong opinions - start your own thread - go vent over there.

[Derek27]

at the end of the day, i still circle back to this rudeness:

Let's be clear here and recap your actions:

you asked me a question - I gave you an answer : then you started with this whole my resume is this - I am a full time bettor - blah blah blah

Like I said to you - this is not something that you do - it is not normal to try to intimidate people by going down that route.

Your resume is of a low level financial employee - that is easily replaceable at a moments notice - that skill set is vanilla.

Anyway like I said - if you have strong opinions - start your own thread - go vent over there.

I've known a few people who get stroppy if you disagree with them. Our friend here gets upset if you're not in 100% agreement and praise. Asking a question for clarity leaves him furious at your lack of understanding, intelligence, and conclusion that you must be several pay-grades below him so he's wasted his time talking to you.

[gazuty]

I’ve got to give kudos our friend here - he is very good at the chewbacca defence. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aV6NoNkDGsU

[NotBothered]

Derek

so let me get this straight

you go back and pick and choose things out of context in what they were written for - and this is OK

but if I go back - and answer something - this somehow is not acceptable

OK just so I understand that.


Jim,

you did the same thing - those blackjack things are 2 totally different things.

People wanted to come in the thread and tell me I was wrong or other comments -- I merely said look -- no matter who you are - there is always someone who bets more / knows more or is otherwise more advanced than you are -- so I used the example where I was just an insignificant person compared to some friends and business associates.

The second one is totally different - that poster wanted to push me into a corner by saying the rules of blackjack are a loss for the bettor - do I think someone can beat blackjack .. my response was the average person no .. but people do beat blackjack and the casinos allow them to play - because they spend money and bring their friends and their friends lose.

So really it is 2 different things not one.

Then he went on about this whole well your only using 2 things that means this or that -- well that is not true either -- you want to bet form - then in my opinion it is best to have more data than less.

lastly what this person and others do not realize - is dutching is bet one way and the other ideas are bet another way -- because the payout values are different -- people just jump on the first thing they see and assume something - when it is not true.


As far as Shaun and I went - look I said to Shaun - we are never going to agree - lets just not post and annoy each other because we are not going to get anywhere .. then it went on a bit and we went our different ways -- nothing wrong with that - I irritate him and he irritates me - because like I said my consideration is not the same as his .. I never expected anyone to agree with me - but I certainly do not expect all the crap either.


Overall I answer things if the question is written in a way that shows understanding - I really do not answer things that are written with a lack of understanding -- I also give the same courtesy to everyone else -- I do not write in anyone elses thread unless I can add something in it .. I do not go in and just write silly general trading comments that do not mean anything that helps no one.

Anyway I gotta get to following the races - so yeah - you guys keep on keeping on and lets see where we get too today.

cheers

[Derek27]

Derek

so let me get this straight

you go back and pick and choose things out of context in what they were written for - and this is OK

but if I go back - and answer something - this somehow is not acceptable

OK just so I understand that.

You're talking absolute bollocks NotBothered.

Press the flipping quote button and quote what I said where I was taking you out of context?

It's OK to quote what somebody previously said in the course of a conversation. After all, it's not even possible to have a meaningful conversation if you forget the earlier parts.

It is NOT OK to ignore a question, carry on arguing and answer it several days later.

I was only asking what financial position you had as a matter of interest, it wasn't even relevant to this conversation.

[Kai]

Hopefully this helps : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTJJhLKHzbY

That is the most abusive post in this thread. Are you suggesting he can't even press a quote button?

My advice NotBothered, don't get into a back and forth with Kai. He will go on all night relentlessly.

Well, that didn't work I was merely pointing out the level of stubbornness that you're dealing with, with a helpful video. But no, what little I said in the thread was apparently already overkill since OP was so mortally offended by it, I dare not say anything else or he may keel over, grasping his chest. It's ridiculous.

No, I suspect he is done listening to reason and logic so your constructive criticism is not welcome here, at this point he will not use the forum quote feature out of pride, spite and ultimately out of ego. Ironically, he may not have worked out how to use the quote button but he sure knows how to push other people's buttons, and expertly so.

Luckily Dallas and Euler treat their customers so well, without their impartial wisdom OP would surely run out of people to even engage with.

[Derek27]

It is like when you said to me where did you work Bank of England ? No CB jobs yeah they are important but they are not traders -- CBs would call me to ask about the market and market conditions - and what my thought process was about the market -- then they would call back and have me execute their transactions.... pretty much every famous investor you have ever heard of - I have dealt for at one point or another.

That doesn't really say much about your job or what you were doing?

I don't know much about the financial world or know many famous investors but what do you mean by " I have dealt for at one point or another"?

Did you have a business dinner with them all at a top restaurant? An office meeting? Speak to them over the phone? Or handle a document that happens to have their name printed on it?

Anyway, the point of my post is, I have circled the QUOTE button in bright red in the image below. You'll find it in the top-right of any post. Use it!

If you haven't got the very basic ability, which everybody else on this forum has, to press a button and reply to what somebody has said, you are a complete idiot, plain and simple!

No amount of financial experience or making $1000 a day will change that - you will be a total idiot until you're able to carry out a task as simple as pressing a button.

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[elofan0]

It seems the quest is to get peoples backs up rather than be as the post started .. it's time to grow up basically .. and move on

[sniffer66]

It seems the quest is to get peoples backs up rather than be as the post started .. it's time to grow up basically .. and move on

Agreed. I've been non confrontational and asked the same reasonable question four times, with no response.

It's just a trolling thread for NB to wind people up. I'm gone