Chat GPT & Generative AI tools
ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:41 pmOr be pleasantly surprised, there's a handful of humans who've done exactly that so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility. With bots though the hard part isn't the coding, it's having the analytical skills and creativity to build strategy and that's where I see a use for this. Automation (be it AI coding or betting bots) is best used for what you can't do rather than what you could do.napshnap wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 2:01 pmI have a suggestion - take some newbs requests (I forgot where they post them here) like "I wanna a bot with a magic "to the moon!" button and when I press it it should make me a millionaire and then I'll buy meself a fancy golden rocket-car!". Do it and then post its code here and we'll have a good laugh)).
The future is upon us.. ... "brain the size of a planet and you've got me doing coding"
Oh, Shaun, it's easy for you wise guys with a ton of experience in the field to say it. I had to crawl through the pain and tears, for example, I didn't know object oriented programming concepts and kept variables (now wait for it...) in a sh'tload of textboxes on a windows form!))With bots though the hard part isn't the coding
Do you think it can give us a few ideas? Maybe we should ask it in a specific serious statistical terms.and that's where I see a use for this
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I don't find it easy, far from it. I hadn't written a line of code for 15yrs when I started again, and the IT had changed a LOT. Even OO was something I hadn't touched. When I say not hard I'm not referring to me or anyone in particular, just that if a regular one-headed person can manage it (and lots do) then it's not something I'd put in the (really) hard category or certainly not something that needs AI.
Remember my system took 2yrs full-time to build so I'm not exactly a wizzkid anymore. I just wanted it so bad I wouldn't concede defeat. We're never too old to learn.
Remember my system took 2yrs full-time to build so I'm not exactly a wizzkid anymore. I just wanted it so bad I wouldn't concede defeat. We're never too old to learn.
I think many still don't realize what the true potential is. Limited by their own imagination. Google will have to do something about that or they will be overtaken pretty quickly.
I think where I have found it helpful is the interaction and structured queries you have with it.
Rather than just googling a solution to a problem and having to read through and interpret it. You can get a query answered and then drill down on specifics and get a pretty clear answer.
It feels like NLP is going to massacre search engines. Feels like Google is in trouble. The age of the traditional search engine is over!
Rather than just googling a solution to a problem and having to read through and interpret it. You can get a query answered and then drill down on specifics and get a pretty clear answer.
It feels like NLP is going to massacre search engines. Feels like Google is in trouble. The age of the traditional search engine is over!
I see a huge danger for humanity in that. People can become too dependant and trustful to ai. People can forget that there are others behind ai algorithms and deify it, like "how dare you question the sacred ai?!" (like Femputer in Futurama).
People trade their freedoms for comfort too easily and thoughtlessly.
ps. "Generated by Chat GPT"
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I think we are already there. Social media has made people reactive and a slave to their emotions.
People have forgotten how to think independently, critically and interactions with other real humans is very different from even ten years ago. Empathetic discussion has been replaced by who shouts the loudest.
People have forgotten how to think independently, critically and interactions with other real humans is very different from even ten years ago. Empathetic discussion has been replaced by who shouts the loudest.
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I don't use social media (apart from here) because I disagree with how it operates.
I didn't have Sky because I didn't like the Murdock's politics.
I don't hold bitcoin; altering the entire geog economic system because a snotty nosed kid has found a way to be a zillionaire, or other people want to get rich quick, is irresponsible.
These things aren't compulsory, it's fomo, self interest and apathy on the scale of a pandemic that's fueling all this crap so if you don't like the beast stop feeding it.
There you go, the rantings of a random person who's options mean jackshit and you've wasted your precious time reading it.
I didn't have Sky because I didn't like the Murdock's politics.
I don't hold bitcoin; altering the entire geog economic system because a snotty nosed kid has found a way to be a zillionaire, or other people want to get rich quick, is irresponsible.
These things aren't compulsory, it's fomo, self interest and apathy on the scale of a pandemic that's fueling all this crap so if you don't like the beast stop feeding it.
There you go, the rantings of a random person who's options mean jackshit and you've wasted your precious time reading it.
The potential for coding seems immense. I was able to get the AI to produce Python code from simple instructions. The most interesting is that the AI seems capable of retaining information and using that in later requests, for editing etc... maybe all this wont be so immense for software developers who could be out of a job within ten years...
Perhaps the AI could be trained to pass the Turing Test
Perhaps the AI could be trained to pass the Turing Test
I asked it to write me a BF trading bot ..just for sh*ts and giggles and the reply was effectively " I could if I could browse the internet "
I chucked some python at it and it correctly identified a lot of coding that could be improved and correctly called it as a betting program for Betfair (not a stretch for it I guess but still impressive)..scary and exciting at the same time
I chucked some python at it and it correctly identified a lot of coding that could be improved and correctly called it as a betting program for Betfair (not a stretch for it I guess but still impressive)..scary and exciting at the same time
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Why do they make it type back to you as though its there typing like a human? It's like marketing people have ruined it already
As for 69, it doesn't do sexual things....that was the first thing I asked for...so maybe the marketing people aren't in charge just yet....
As for 69, it doesn't do sexual things....that was the first thing I asked for...so maybe the marketing people aren't in charge just yet....
It actually does, I read you can convince it that it (Chat GPT) is a fictional character (like in a context of some novel or story) and then it will expand all your sick dreams.johnsheppard wrote: ↑Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:48 pm...
As for 69, it doesn't do sexual things....that was the first thing I asked for...so maybe the marketing people aren't in charge just yet....