Amounts On Offer To Be Matched

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Amounts On Offer To Be Matched

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BillBoshTwo
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:55 pm
All functionality comes at a cost to performance. It might be trivial at each step, but if BA exposed all of information it could (commercial license restrictions aside) then it would eventually have an impact. I think the No votes are just as likely to be automation users who'd never have a use for it, as much as manual traders being awkward.

I think it's worth noting too that that figures you want change at an extraordinary pace when markets are active, hitting a given price is hard enough, but spotting a key volume figure is a magnitude harder when the available volume is changing maybe 50 times a second.

It might be an interesting figure to have in quiet markets, but I'd never used it.... so I'll abstain from voting and leave the scrap to the interested parties.
Shaun, I respect your views :) but I have no use for much of the manual stuff available in BA but I don't vote things down when others suggest things. Maybe I should.
weemac
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:lol: By abstaining, he's actually helped the cause of those who've voted for it!
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jimibt
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in truth, the way i view software is that it's either a human (UI) API or a software (automation) API. therefore, where possible there should be a crossover match on what's available to both. In the brave new world around the corner, robotic automation is already doing this with legacy UI applications as well as software API driven apps. I kinda know this, as this is exactly what my day job entails ;) !!
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BetScalper
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What I and others find strange is the fact that its mentioned in the Help guide under Excel integration as being potentially a good idea when to open a trade.

I am not knocking Shaun as he helped me when initially opening my trades using Excel and then letting BA/Guardian manage my trades going forward. And I thank him for that (It can't be done) excellent advice. :)

As I stated in my original post, my issue is that using Excel creates an additional overhead. :(

I might be completely wrong but looking at Peter's YT videos I am pretty sure he takes into account the amounts on offer in the queue on either side before confirming his MANUAL decision making.
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ShaunWhite
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BillBoshTwo wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:49 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:55 pm
but I'd never used it.... so I'll abstain from voting and leave the scrap to the interested parties.
Shaun, I respect your views :) but I have no use for much of the manual stuff available in BA but I don't vote things down when others suggest things. Maybe I should.
I don't vote things down, but I'm also not going to vote for things I don't need either, hence the abstention. I'm ok leaving that to people who have skin in the game.

With BA having a very limited development budget then personally, I'd freeze it for 12months and focus on giving some areas a radical 2018 re-write rather than tinkering. A step back in order to go forward so to speak. First thing I'd do would be to allow Guardian to run in asynchronous mode and ditch the way it has to cycle, that would certainly pep things up a bit and help all the guys who complain about having to run multiple BA's. I'd also improve the reporting side a LOT too so that you could analyse your results by automation strategies much easier, or chart your entries and exits if you're a manual guy. BA is a good front office product but an equally impressive back office with daily/weekly/monthly reporting would be something to help maintain it's best of breed status. I know there's always Excel but not everyone wants to or has the skills to design and write analytics and the current BA exports are a bit clunky.

I come from a position of being involved with a city product that totally dominated from about 85 until 05, it was in 95 of the top 100 asset management firms, but they didn't re-invest heavily enough, and now it's pretty much vanished. The time you feel dominant is the time you're most vulnerable. BA's architecture has it's roots in 2005, if it's still going to be best of breed in 2025, maybe it's time for version 2.xx rather than another 1.xx?
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jimibt
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+1 Shaun.

would be useful to have a v2.x wishlist Thread or more to the point, a serious mandate of features that users felt were either missing currently or functionality that the majority could agree were crucial to driving the platform forward into the next battlegound. obviously, such a thread would have a distinct lack of BA input as this would give away strategic adantage. but merely having a single point of contact with user wishes may help to drive forward such change(s).
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ShaunWhite
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BetScalper wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:17 pm
I am not knocking Shaun as he helped me when initially opening my trades using Excel and then letting BA/Guardian manage my trades going forward. And I thank him for that (It can't be done) excellent advice. :)
Thx BetScalper, v kind. (was "can't" a red herring :) )
Yep, Excel and BA can chat to each other more than most people realise I think, 'nuf said eh ;)

I think this was the method I came up with..
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Euler
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We have actually re-written the code base quite a few times, but don't talk about it much as people are interested in features rather than the underbelly and it would give away some of the stuff we work on. So, for example, streaming required a complete re-write which expanded the capabilities significantly, but we did it in a manner that would allow us to keep improving the product.

So we are always looking quite far ahead in terms of feature sets when we do such work.

The key thing on your side is that as a team we are reliant on working really hard to stay one step ahead of the market and others, so we will always be thinking like that. We intend to be around for many years to come.
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BetScalper
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:10 pm
BetScalper wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:17 pm
I am not knocking Shaun as he helped me when initially opening my trades using Excel and then letting BA/Guardian manage my trades going forward. And I thank him for that (It can't be done) excellent advice. :)
Thx BetScalper, v kind. (was "can't" a red herring :) )
Yep, Excel and BA can chat to each other more than most people realise I think, 'nuf said eh ;)

I think this was the method I came up with..
:D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol: Something like that. :D :lol: :D :lol: :D :lol:
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BetScalper
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Euler wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:14 pm
We have actually re-written the code base quite a few times, but don't talk about it much as people are interested in features rather than the underbelly and it would give away some of the stuff we work on. So, for example, streaming required a complete re-write which expanded the capabilities significantly, but we did it in a manner that would allow us to keep improving the product.

So we are always looking quite far ahead in terms of feature sets when we do such work.

The key thing on your side is that as a team we are reliant on working really hard to stay one step ahead of the market and others, so we will always be thinking like that. We intend to be around for many years to come.
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So, Peter, while your hear. :) Do you think you will consider this request in a further release ?, maybe as an xmas present. I am more than willing to make a donation to your favourite charity or sending a bottle of single malt to BA HQ etc.

My mum always said bribery gets you nowhere but my nan said it was the only way she could get my grandad to marry her and swore by it. :)
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