Beating the drones

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Balmus
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Anyone seriously interested get in touch here [email protected] but be quick. First come first served.
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ShaunWhite
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:47 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:39 pm
The successful in-running guys I know of are using TPD in their automation.
https://www.totalperformancedata.com/
Ouch

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Tenner a week. Absolute bargain.
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firlandsfarm
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:49 am
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:47 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:39 pm
The successful in-running guys I know of are using TPD in their automation.
https://www.totalperformancedata.com/
Ouch

CD369F8A-F906-47CF-BEAD-F088BEE254E2.jpeg
Tenner a week. Absolute bargain.
I agree with Shaun. If you can make more than an extra tenner a week what's the problem. We run businesses and all businesses compare cost with profit. It's just outsourcing.
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ShaunWhite
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:13 am
It's just outsourcing.
I just wish I had the brains to wire it all together. That's how the syndicates get big, it can all become too much work for one pair of hands. Maybe I need to lurk around the Uni offering an unpaid internship :)

I'm sure I heard once that TPD was £20/day/course, obviously I'm wrong or they've radically changed their fees.
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Realrocknrolla
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:49 am
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:47 pm
ShaunWhite wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:39 pm
The successful in-running guys I know of are using TPD in their automation.
https://www.totalperformancedata.com/
Ouch

CD369F8A-F906-47CF-BEAD-F088BEE254E2.jpeg
Tenner a week. Absolute bargain.
I agree when you break it down. However personally for me I am lucky enough to have other sources free to all that helps me read how a race will pan out.

And experience 😬👴
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ShaunWhite
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:00 am
I agree when you break it down. However personally for me I am lucky enough to have other sources free to all that helps me read how a race will pan out.

And experience 😬👴
Have you got an api I can plug into my software? :)

I get what you mean about the price though especially as there's a lot of work integrating the info and no guarantees it'll help you. But when the Racing Post is £3.50 for yesterday's news <£2/day seems very competitive. I only know a few people that use it but they seem to be happy with the cost/benefit.
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Realrocknrolla
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:18 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:00 am
I agree when you break it down. However personally for me I am lucky enough to have other sources free to all that helps me read how a race will pan out.

And experience 😬👴
Have you got an api I can plug into my software? :)

I get what you mean about the price though especially as there's a lot of work integrating the info and no guarantees it'll help you. But when the Racing Post is £3.50 for yesterday's news <£2/day seems very competitive. I only know a few people that use it but they seem to be happy with the cost/benefit.
Yeah Shaun definitely agree on the RP.
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ShaunWhite
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:25 pm
Yeah Shaun definitely agree on the RP.
Last time I bought it was about £1.80 I was shocked when I looked up the price now.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 4:42 pm
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:25 pm
Yeah Shaun definitely agree on the RP.
Last time I bought it was about £1.80 I was shocked when I looked up the price now.
To be fair… inform racing is for me.
Mdave1
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Now if Bet Angel could only align the race meter with the GPS signals.
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Mdave1 wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:22 am
Now if Bet Angel could only align the race meter with the GPS signals.
Dat would be a massive game changer....and also i think BA would cost A LOT more :? :)
I dont think ba will ever has this feature.
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:40 pm
Mdave1 wrote:
Thu Sep 02, 2021 11:25 am
Are there any plans in place to assist the in running traders to help with the growing persistence of drones at the race courses and the time advantage it gives them?
The Bet Angel In-Play Trader software is all you need.


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https://www.betangel.com/in-play-trader/


Adjust the speed settings to 20ms and you have a fast visual reference point in-play.
I wouldnt exactly say BA is "ALL" you need. :)
Ive seen situations when a horse goes from @32.0 to @5.5 and even lower within a second way too many times and thats enough for me not to say that BA is all i need.
It can help for sure but its just one of many tools you need to be successful when trading inplay.
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Smog_Trader
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Mdave1 wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 9:22 am
Now if Bet Angel could only align the race meter with the GPS signals.
The GPS data is flawed, I think they quote +/- 1.5 metres, so a three metre worse case and at the speed they're going that's the difference between winning and placing. That doesn't include the usual inaccuracies anyway.

Plus by the time the signals bounced around and got to you, you may as well watch. GPS doesn't tell you how the horse is travelling, just how fast it was going a second or two ago... you're following stale data.

All said there will be angles that I'm sure some clever people here can make money off automated, but I'd suggest that this wouldn't be anymore profitable than following the LTP that BA provide anyway.

From my limited time in the trading world, and having paid for some of it, anyone can package up data in a pretty format and lots of people pay for it. If it was that good, why sell it?
LinusP
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Yeah it’s terrible, don’t bother.
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The Silk Run
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LinusP wrote:
Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:59 pm
Yeah it’s terrible, don’t bother.
I concur. We used it some time ago when first released to public. Not very accurate at all, and overlays misleading. It's NOT a quick fix !!!
I had far more success IP with BA in-play trader.
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