Tx count and multiple Bet Angel sessions

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SundayBetter
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It looks like Tx count is specific to each Bet Angel sessions. Yesterday I was running 2 sessions and saw different Tx counts in both. that means it is not a proper protection against the 5000 transaction limit of Betfair.

Is this correct and can you change the behaviour so that Tx count is calculated across sessions? If not what is the workaround?
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Derek27
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Unless the Tx count is available on the API I doubt there is a workaround because BA cannot possibly know how many transactions have been fired on another computer, other software or through the website.
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SundayBetter
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isnt this an information that can be requested from Betfair?
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Anbell
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AFAIK BA hasnt redefined TX since BF redefined TX
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SundayBetter
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Anbell wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:25 am
 AFAIK BA hasnt redefined TX since BF redefined TX
meaning? :?:
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Anbell
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SundayBetter wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:37 am
Anbell wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:25 am
 AFAIK BA hasnt redefined TX since BF redefined TX
meaning? :?:
BF changed their definition of a transaction (for the purpose of counting transactions and charging for them) a few months ago to include things like cancelling a bet, or changing Keep Status etc. BetAngel's TX number does not count many of the things in BetFair's new definition.
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SundayBetter
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I see. Bet Angel team: can you make those 2 improvements:
1) make sure bet angel has the same Tx definition as Betfair
2) get the Tx number across all BA sessions
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Derek27
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SundayBetter wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:32 am
 I see. Bet Angel team: can you make those 2 improvements:
1) make sure bet angel has the same Tx definition as Betfair
2) get the Tx number across all BA sessions
You need to put that request in the suggestions forum. BA frequently implement suggestions supported by users.
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ShaunWhite
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Anbell wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 pm
 BF changed their definition of a transaction
Are you 100% about that? I always thought (aka assumed) that any user initiated api message for whatever purpose was always regarded as a 'transaction'. And the changes last year were just about limits and costs?
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Anbell
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Anbell wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 pm
 BF changed their definition of a transaction (for the purpose of ... charging for them)
Yeah, that's what I meant
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Derek27
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ShaunWhite wrote: ↑
Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:05 am
Anbell wrote: ↑
Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:09 pm
 BF changed their definition of a transaction
Are you 100% about that? I always thought (aka assumed) that any user initiated api message for whatever purpose was always regarded as a 'transaction'. And the changes last year were just about limits and costs?
Is it possible to obtain the transaction count for the hour over the API?

If not, I can't see how BA could synchronise the count over multiple instances of BA, especially on multiple PCs.
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