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ajanthony
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Hello all,
Can someone please explain how this is possible. I am in practise mode. I lay a bet with $100 liability, it gets matched. No greening, no stop and no profit target, happy for it to be a winner or a loser.
The runner loses but the return is zero yet on other races the stake is the profit. I just had one operate the other way, runner wins, no loss.
It happens frequently, what am I missing here.
Regards,
Anthony
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Derek27
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ajanthony wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:48 am
Hello all,
Can someone please explain how this is possible. I am in practise mode. I lay a bet with $100 liability, it gets matched. No greening, no stop and no profit target, happy for it to be a winner or a loser.
The runner loses but the return is zero yet on other races the stake is the profit. I just had one operate the other way, runner wins, no loss.
It happens frequently, what am I missing here.
Regards,
Anthony
If you're in practice mode you can't win or lose whatever happens because you're not placing real bets.
ajanthony
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:lol: Hello Derek,
I can only suspect you are having a laugh at my expense. Even in practise profit and loss is shown.
In any event I have now sorted what was happening so I will actually delete the post.
Regards.
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Derek27
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ajanthony wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:37 am
:lol: Hello Derek,
I can only suspect you are having a laugh at my expense. Even in practise profit and loss is shown.
In any event I have now sorted what was happening so I will actually delete the post.
Regards.
I think I realised what you meant by the time I finished typing that but I decided to submit it anyway. :lol:
ajanthony
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It is happening again even though I thought I had it sorted. Below are the logs for the same race on two practise accounts. Different profit result.
Can someone explain how this is possible.

24/02/2023 12:38:16: [G_Auto 2] : $ 3.57 Lay bet placed on 13. Cutting Loose at 29. Fully matched at 29. Ref: 10165
24/02/2023 12:40:31: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2023 12:40:31: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/02/2023 12:40:31: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/02/2023 12:41:36: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place = 4. Dusky Dancer
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_jockey = Dylan Bennett
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_trainer = Mario Caltabiano
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 1. Volfoni: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 1. Volfoni: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 3. Dont Cry Mama: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 3. Dont Cry Mama: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 4. Dusky Dancer: result = Winner
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 4. Dusky Dancer: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 5. Klinsmann: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 5. Klinsmann: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 6. The Sherpa: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 6. The Sherpa: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 7. Bunnamagoo: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 7. Bunnamagoo: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 12. Draiochta: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 12. Draiochta: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 13. Cutting Loose: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 13. Cutting Loose: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for 4. Dusky Dancer: Market_Profit = 0
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Bet Angel: Total_Profit = 0 + 10.38 = 10.38
24/02/2023 12:46:28: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Market_P&L = 0


24/02/2023 12:38:15: [G_Auto 2] : $ 10.00 Lay bet placed on 13. Cutting Loose at 29. Fully matched at 29. Ref: 10295
24/02/2023 12:40:30: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/02/2023 12:41:35: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place = 4. Dusky Dancer
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_jockey = Dylan Bennett
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_trainer = Mario Caltabiano
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 1. Volfoni: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 1. Volfoni: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 3. Dont Cry Mama: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 3. Dont Cry Mama: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 4. Dusky Dancer: result = Winner
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 4. Dusky Dancer: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 5. Klinsmann: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 5. Klinsmann: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 6. The Sherpa: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 6. The Sherpa: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 7. Bunnamagoo: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 7. Bunnamagoo: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 12. Draiochta: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 12. Draiochta: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 13. Cutting Loose: result = Loser
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 13. Cutting Loose: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for 4. Dusky Dancer: Market_Profit = 10
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Bet Angel: Total_Profit = 10 + 770.01 = 780.01
24/02/2023 12:46:27: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Market_P&L = 10
Last edited by ajanthony on Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
ajanthony
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Another one below.
Horse runs last on a matched lay bet with zero profit.
I do not understand.

24/02/2023 14:55:49: [G_Auto 2] : $ 3.03 Lay bet placed on 4. Sparkingly at 34. Fully matched at 34. Ref: 10177
24/02/2023 15:00:43: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2023 15:00:44: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
24/02/2023 15:00:45: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
24/02/2023 15:01:49: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place = 9. Tu Qui Santuzza
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_jockey = Regan Bayliss
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for market: 1st_place_trainer = G Waterhouse & A Bott
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 1. Chevron: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 1. Chevron: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 3. Souttar: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 3. Souttar: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 4. Sparkingly: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 4. Sparkingly: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 6. Full Revolution: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 6. Full Revolution: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 7. Bianco Nero: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 7. Bianco Nero: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 8. Smashing Dancer: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 8. Smashing Dancer: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 9. Tu Qui Santuzza: result = Winner
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 9. Tu Qui Santuzza: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Text Value (Shared) for 10. Untouchable Legend: result = Loser
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Automation Signal for 10. Untouchable Legend: triggered = 1
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for 9. Tu Qui Santuzza: Market_Profit = 0
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for Bet Angel: Total_Profit = 0 + 33.92 = 33.92
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Market_P&L = 0
sionascaig
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Both examples that returned 0 were partial matches - maybe practice mode treats this diff from a P&L point of view - either way it really doesn't matter as its meaningless. In live mode you may not have been matched at all..

Forget P&L in practice mode...
Anbell
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sionascaig wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:35 am
Forget P&L in practice mode...
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ajanthony
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Hi,
You say they are partially matched but it states in the log that they are fully matched, so what do you mean.
Thanks,
Anthony
sionascaig
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I was assuming you were running the same bot under both instances (so the lay amounts should be the same).

If it looks like your bot is laying under the right conditions, move to live mode with min stakes.

You won't have this problem in "live" as the forum would be flooded with posts if there is an issue. Test mode only takes you so far...
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Derek27
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ajanthony wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:07 am
24/02/2023 12:38:16: [G_Auto 2] : $ 3.57 Lay bet placed on 13. Cutting Loose at 29. Fully matched at 29. Ref: 10165

...

24/02/2023 12:38:15: [G_Auto 2] : $ 10.00 Lay bet placed on 13. Cutting Loose at 29. Fully matched at 29. Ref: 10295
Those two bets were placed a whole second apart, the money available would have been different, hence different results.
ajanthony
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Hello,
The bot is running on two instances, different computers. One bot is a $10 fixed lay and the other is $100 liability lay, hence the different amounts.
Anthony
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Derek27
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ajanthony wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:06 am
24/02/2023 15:02:18: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Market_P&L = 0
If you're questioning why your SV equals zero, you need to post a screenshot of the SV tab in your rule.
ajanthony
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Hello Derek,
Bed time down under, will do it in the morning.
Regards,
Anthony
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ajanthony wrote:
Fri Feb 24, 2023 1:11 pm
Hello,
The bot is running on two instances, different computers. One bot is a $10 fixed lay and the other is $100 liability lay, hence the different amounts.
Anthony
Are both PC's running the latest version?

There was a bug in the V1.59 beta which stopped it from getting the win status and P/L from a closed market all the time.
It was fixed before V1.59 went on general release but if you still have an earlier version of V1.59 on that PC that would explain it
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