Back bet if selection is not in first 3 rows

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robbed
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Hi,

I'm trying to automate placing a back bet but only if the selection is not in the top 3 lowest odds. Usually this would mean row 4 or lower but not 100% of the time but I don't know to automate that either.

Help appreciated as always.
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Dallas
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You could either apply the rule to the 4th fav, 5th fav, 6th fav etc

Or apply it to ANY selection and use a 'Relative Odds Condition' to test;
Selections Back Price
is Greater than
Back Price
of Nominated Selection 'by position (in order of favouritism) 3
robbed
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This is working exactly as I need. Thanks
robbed
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Do you know how to place a back bet in the place market if the selection is not in the first 3 rows in the win market?
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robbed wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 11:39 am
Do you know how to place a back bet in the place market if the selection is not in the first 3 rows in the win market?
There's a step-by-step guide here on linking markets
viewtopic.php?t=16230

And some example rules near the bottom of the opening post here
viewtopic.php?t=11238

Essentially all you'll be doing is storing the value at 'Event' level if not in the top 3

Then using that stored value as a condition of your place market rule
robbed
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Hi, I've followed the other threads you mentioned and created what I thought was correct to do the following;

1. Store the price of the 3rd favourite and the nominated selection in the win market
2. Place a back bet in the Place market if the price of the 3rd favourite in the win market is less than the nominated selection in the win market.

I don't get any bets triggering. I'm applying the 1st automation, called "signal from win market" to the win market and the second automation to the place market.

Any ideas what the issue is?

Thanks in advance.
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jamesedwards
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I would do it this way...

On the Win market, store a value at 'event' level for 'every selection' using condition 'relative odds' where the selections odds are greater than 3rd by order of favouritism.

Then on the place market, use the event level stored value as a condition on your bet trigger.
robbed
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I only see the option to do this for 1 selection.
Selection.png
I'm still lost.
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jamesedwards
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You're right, it's trickier than I first thought.

There may be better ways, but here's how I've done it:
> Against the Win market - Store the Betfair ID of the top 3 favs at 'event' level
> Against the Place market - Store the Betfair ID of every selection
> Against the Place market - Place a back bet on every selection where the Betfair ID does not equal any of the Betfair IDs of the top 3 favs.

rule for win market.baf
rule for place market.baf
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robbed
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Great, thanks for your help.
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