Bet365 Bonus abuser jailed for five years

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ruthlessimon
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"A British man was last month sentenced to five years in prison for conspiracy to commit fraud against gambling giant bet365 and Santander bank."

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In summary

Pull Bet365's pants down: 3yrs
Pull Santander's pants down: 2yrs
Try to pull a kid's pants down: wrist slap
mikki23
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Wtf!? How is that even a criminal case? And with such a high sentence at the end?
Sure, the mortgage thing looks a bit shadier. But even there, it doesn't look like he defrauded Santander, he probably had the money for paying back the mortgage, so no damage for Santander.
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Euler
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I've been following this story and another and it's difficult to tell what has happened here as it's not possible to get a written transcript of the case.

I understand it's going to appeal and if that's the case, we may get more detail.
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Naffman
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I see Caan has jumped on the culture war bandwagon with this story, I bet he’ll be quiet when/if the full story comes out
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The harsh sentence is because of:

“Requesting chargebacks from Santander bank on gambling losses while using multiple identities”

Is it as bad as murder or interfering with children, of course not but stealing money or any type of fraud always brings a heavy sentence. Always has in the UK.

But I suspect they got away with allot more money than has been reported so far.
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Euler
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Naffman wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:00 pm
I see Caan has jumped on the culture war bandwagon with this story, I bet he’ll be quiet when/if the full story comes out
No surprise there!

I spoke to a barrister friend of mine and he advised against jumping to conclusions as it's not possible to get the facts of the case and publically commenting on a case without the facts is in contempt of court. You can't state something as a fact or use it for publicity purposes without using the right language.

He advised to wait until the facts are know, which they will be if it goes to appeal.

I was surprised to see that there wasn't a public transcript, but was advised there wouldn't be one and: -

If it's in the Crown Court, then it would have been a jury trial and juries don't need to give their reasons. So you never know why they've decided one thing or another. And for the same reasons because it wasn't the judge's decision, you won't get a "judgment" either like you would in a civil case.
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Unbelieveably harsh sentence, unless he was money laundering
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Euler
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Archangel wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 1:39 pm
Unbelieveably harsh sentence, unless he was money laundering
You can'y tell precisely without seeing the documents, which you can't. I'd be surprised if it's as simple as people are trying to make out. But I get the feeling most people don't care about the facts if they can get a few clicks.
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Euler wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:26 pm
Naffman wrote:
Fri May 05, 2023 12:00 pm
I see Caan has jumped on the culture war bandwagon with this story
No surprise there!
What's more suprising is anyone giving a toss about a random's opinion on a nuanced legal case with very little information being public. :roll:

It's like listening to what Pimlico Plumbers think about nuclear fusion.
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