UK General Election 2024 (or 25)

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Archangel wrote:
Tue Sep 27, 2022 8:43 pm
A “small but growing” number of MPs have submitted letters of no confidence to Sir Graham Brady, the chairman of the 1922 Committee, although under the rules Truss is protected from a challenge for a year
They really need to change the party leader rules. At the moment it's civil war between MPs and party members.
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Roger Gale MP: There are two ways to bring down a government. One is a vote of no confidence, the other is losing a budget. If a government can't get a budget through parliament it can't continue.
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Labour majority now 2.3 fav, most seats now 1.5. Starmer out to odds-against for next PM with Sunak down to 6.0-second fav, suggesting the market thinks Truss may not see it out until the next election. :)
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 pm
Labour majority now 2.3 fav, most seats now 1.5. Starmer out to odds-against for next PM with Sunak down to 6.0-second fav, suggesting the market thinks Truss may not see it out until the next election. :)
Johnson third favourite to be next PM.
Amazing
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Archangel wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:11 pm

Johnson third favourite to be next PM.
Amazing
Could be an interesting hedge for the Mad Bomber at #11.
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Archangel wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 pm
Labour majority now 2.3 fav, most seats now 1.5. Starmer out to odds-against for next PM with Sunak down to 6.0-second fav, suggesting the market thinks Truss may not see it out until the next election. :)
Johnson third favourite to be next PM.
Amazing
Johnson's just tweeted about Putin's speech as though he's still PM and people are interested in what he thinks. Obviously trying to show he would be tougher on Russia than Truss.
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Derek27 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:08 pm
Archangel wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:11 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:41 pm
Labour majority now 2.3 fav, most seats now 1.5. Starmer out to odds-against for next PM with Sunak down to 6.0-second fav, suggesting the market thinks Truss may not see it out until the next election. :)
Johnson third favourite to be next PM.
Amazing
Johnson's just tweeted about Putin's speech as though he's still PM and people are interested in what he thinks. Obviously trying to show he would be tougher on Russia than Truss.
Hes a bit like Trump in that regard. He wont go away and will be hanging around in the background for years
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The Tories have cut taxes for the richest in society so it's only fair and reasonable that they cut real-term benefits for the poorest. :lol:

I think they know their time's up and they want to enjoy their last few months, but the red wall MPs won't be happy.
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If Truss is safe for 12 months after election from a no-confidence vote due to party rules, and it's doubtful her front bench would turn on her as they're all loyalists (not job suited, just loyal to her)....then whatfor the UK economy until she achieves the no-confidence vote on her 1st anniversary/eligibility date? Just plateau and the sterling meanders a smidgen, while bread, milk, petrol all increase?

The proper budget in November/October or whenever it is, would want to have some serious figures in it to account for the giveaway last week. I'm not on twitter anymore, but if someone could tweet direct Kwasi and Liz to the Martingale threads on this forum then they might learn a tiny teeny bit and stop trying to borrow their way into prosperity :roll:
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Dublin_Flyer wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:42 pm
If Truss is safe for 12 months after election from a no-confidence vote due to party rules, and it's doubtful her front bench would turn on her as they're all loyalists (not job suited, just loyal to her)....then whatfor the UK economy until she achieves the no-confidence vote on her 1st anniversary/eligibility date? Just plateau and the sterling meanders a smidgen, while bread, milk, petrol all increase?

The proper budget in November/October or whenever it is, would want to have some serious figures in it to account for the giveaway last week. I'm not on twitter anymore, but if someone could tweet direct Kwasi and Liz to the Martingale threads on this forum then they might learn a tiny teeny bit and stop trying to borrow their way into prosperity :roll:
I keep hearing the phrase, if the Conservatives want to get rid of their leader they will. They did it with Johnson the Indestructible, eventually, the 1922 committee could change their rules at any time so she's not safe for 12 months, or they could rebel and refuse to vote in the next budget. I don't know if it's ever happened but I heard no government can continue if they can't get a budget through parliament.
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A senior minister says the UK is living in a fool's paradise because of the size of the welfare state. :shock:

So not having to work and living a life of luxury on £80 or whatever it is now a week is paradise - that justifies cutting benefits. :roll:
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Derek27 wrote:
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A senior minister says the UK is living in a fool's paradise because of the size of the welfare state. :shock:
They have been in power for 12 years
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The welfare state costs around £230 billion. Most people don’t realise that £115 billion is spent on the state pension. Which is probably one of the worst in Europe.

The other £115 billion is spent on universal credit, disability benefit and social care.

The above does not include cost of running the NHS.

I have long thought, for decades, that the sums don’t add up. Not even sure why the UK is in the G7. People keep saying the UK is a rich country but when you drill down the income/expenditure, it’s not.

If you were to take away income from financial services then on paper the UK would be fcuked.

We are just a small island nation living beyond its means.
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How come the same cat is at 10 Downing Street? Did the Johnsons leave it behind or does it belong to number 10?
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:02 pm
How come the same cat is at 10 Downing Street? Did the Johnsons leave it behind or does it belong to number 10?
'Larry' lives at Number 10 and has no owner. He claims its his house and the various PM's are his lodgers.
I only know all this because I follow him on Twitter :D
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