US Presidential Election 2020

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Anbell
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Jukebox wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:49 am
jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am
In the USA a 78 year old has roughly a 1 in 20 chance of dying in a year. Therefore roughly 1 in 200 in the 40 days between election and EC vote. No wonder there was interest in Harris at 1000/1.
He should be alright - so long as he doesn't do anything more stressful than the average 78 year old..
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LeTiss
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It's remarkable that the market still alive, but I'm more amazed by the Kamala Harris price than Trump

What are the chances of Trump turning this around? - Very Slim
What are the chances of old man Biden being taken ill and not able to take office? - Slim

There's currently £85000 available at 1000!
I wouldn't be offering 1000 on Harris right now
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:18 pm
jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:45 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:52 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was still the winner in those circumstances as he has the most projected votes. They normally settle the market as soon as the loser concedes which implies the death of the president elect wouldn't affect the market.
Could refer to the 'projected votes' of the EC following the Dec 14th meeting. Thus why BF specifically call out the 'faithless electors' clause. ie the result is based on what the Electors agree to vote for, not who they actually vote for.
I've asked before on this thread, what is the definition of a 'projected EC vote'? I doubt anyone's sure but my guess is that Biden has already aquired the majority of them. Either way, I wouldn't want to back Biden without fully understanding the rules and I'm not sure Betfair fully understand what they've written. :)
Indeed, although it does seem fitting that a market, where questions have been asked about the mental state and health of both main candidates, should have ill-defined settlement terms.

Who's on first base?...or...Who is on first base.
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Derek27
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LeTiss wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:23 am
It's remarkable that the market still alive, but I'm more amazed by the Kamala Harris price than Trump

What are the chances of Trump turning this around? - Very Slim
What are the chances of old man Biden being taken ill and not able to take office? - Slim

There's currently £85000 available at 1000!
I wouldn't be offering 1000 on Harris right now
Depending on how you interpret the rules, some people may feel that Kamala has no chance of winning as Biden may be deemed to have the most projected votes, even if anything did prevent him from assuming office.
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This week could see Mr T's odds shorten again.
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BREAKING: Wisconsin's presidential recount is completed. Joe Biden gained 87 votes and again won the state.

Trump becomes the first presidential candidate in history to lose recounts in two different states.

Trump and his allies remain 1-39 in post-election litigation.
Trump ain't going to pull it off, he is losing everywhere.
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Euler wrote:
Sun Nov 29, 2020 4:45 pm
BREAKING: Wisconsin's presidential recount is completed. Joe Biden gained 87 votes and again won the state.

Trump becomes the first presidential candidate in history to lose recounts in two different states.

Trump and his allies remain 1-39 in post-election litigation.
Trump ain't going to pull it off, he is losing everywhere.
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https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status ... 12067?s=19

Former data chief and strategist to Trump claims FBI have requested findings from him that indicates illegal ballots.

If that's true then it means the FBI are investigating election fraud.... how do the states sign off on the integrity of the vote if there is an active investigation.

This market is going on way past 14th December, I'm sticking with this gets decided in a contingent election, vote to go to the House of Representatives.

Shame there isn't a market for that.
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Joe Biden's sprained his ankle and he's drifted a tick. :lol:
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:09 am
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status ... 12067?s=19

Former data chief and strategist to Trump claims FBI have requested findings from him that indicates illegal ballots.

If that's true then it means the FBI are investigating election fraud.... how do the states sign off on the integrity of the vote if there is an active investigation.

This market is going on way past 14th December, I'm sticking with this gets decided in a contingent election, vote to go to the House of Representatives.

Shame there isn't a market for that.
From what you've said, it sounds like the Trump camp have asked the FBI to investigate and they're asking for evidence of illegal ballots before they even begin an investigation.
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Derek27 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:57 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:09 am
https://twitter.com/MattBraynard/status ... 12067?s=19

Former data chief and strategist to Trump claims FBI have requested findings from him that indicates illegal ballots.

If that's true then it means the FBI are investigating election fraud.... how do the states sign off on the integrity of the vote if there is an active investigation.

This market is going on way past 14th December, I'm sticking with this gets decided in a contingent election, vote to go to the House of Representatives.

Shame there isn't a market for that.
From what you've said, it sounds like the Trump camp have asked the FBI to investigate and they're asking for evidence of illegal ballots before they even begin an investigation.
Oh, I don't know about that. Could well be true, certainly sounds possible because in his tweet it says all evidence will be handed in by Tuesday.

Not sure Derek, I wasn't trying to suggest they did or did not, just that if this does become an active investigation & gets formally announced then panick could hit the fan on Bidens price. Some big money floating around that might cause nerves twitch.
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Joe Biden has fractured his ankle and is now in some sort of pot. He was at the hospital on the 28th, if he's a unlucky chap give it 5 to 7 days until he has corona virus and 10 to 15 days until he's dead, well before the electrol college declares. The VP is looking a great bet at 1000 to 1.
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ChrisF wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:08 am
Joe Biden has fractured his ankle and is now in some sort of pot. He was at the hospital on the 28th, if he's a unlucky chap give it 5 to 7 days until he has corona virus and 10 to 15 days until he's dead, well before the electrol college declares. The VP is looking a great bet at 1000 to 1.
Bloody hell, that a bleak forecast :lol:
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jamesg46 wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:47 am
Oh, I don't know about that. Could well be true, certainly sounds possible because in his tweet it says all evidence will be handed in by Tuesday.
It's funny how all evidence is always due to be handed in tomorrow or next week, they'll be saying that in two years time. ;)
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ChrisF wrote:
Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:08 am
Joe Biden has fractured his ankle and is now in some sort of pot. He was at the hospital on the 28th, if he's a unlucky chap give it 5 to 7 days until he has corona virus and 10 to 15 days until he's dead, well before the electrol college declares. The VP is looking a great bet at 1000 to 1.
You are hopeful. ;) As has been stated before, even in the unlikely event of Biden's passing before the 14th it doesn't necessarily mean he won't be declared the winner of the Betfair market.

When I was little I once asked my mother if a particular elderly aunty I hadn't seen for years "is dead yet"! You can imagine my mum was furious - there's no need to be so blunt!
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