US Presidential Election 2020

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jimibt
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decomez6 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:51 am
if the supreme court were to finds the election to be not free and fair , they will declare it null and void and call for a repeat election so backle up! more cheering needed.
this hits the nail on the head squarely - the missing puzzle piece from all the uninformed speculation of late from the DT camp!! TY!!
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jimibt wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:54 pm
decomez6 wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:51 am
if the supreme court were to finds the election to be not free and fair , they will declare it null and void and call for a repeat election so backle up! more cheering needed.
this hits the nail on the head squarely - the missing puzzle piece from all the uninformed speculation of late from the DT camp!! TY!!
The DT camp is great for business , liquidity and edges galore :)
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Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
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Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
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jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
Given that the President elect has access to the very best medical expertise, I doubt that him dropping dead is remotely likely. So you're premise holds no water, unless you are suggesting he might be assasinated. And in terms of this market that would change things. In terms of who rules the US for the next few years it would change zip.
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:01 am
jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
Given that the President elect has access to the very best medical expertise, I doubt that him dropping dead is remotely likely. So you're premise holds no water, unless you are suggesting he might be assasinated. And in terms of this market that would change things. In terms of who rules the US for the next few years it would change zip.
In the USA a 78 year old has roughly a 1 in 20 chance of dying in a year. Therefore roughly 1 in 200 in the 40 days between election and EC vote. No wonder there was interest in Harris at 1000/1.
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jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am
In the USA a 78 year old has roughly a 1 in 20 chance of dying in a year. Therefore roughly 1 in 200 in the 40 days between election and EC vote. No wonder there was interest in Harris at 1000/1.
He should be alright - so long as he doesn't do anything more stressful than the average 78 year old..
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Jukebox wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:49 am
jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:41 am
In the USA a 78 year old has roughly a 1 in 20 chance of dying in a year. Therefore roughly 1 in 200 in the 40 days between election and EC vote. No wonder there was interest in Harris at 1000/1.
He should be alright - so long as he doesn't do anything more stressful than the average 78 year old..
...like running for election? ;)
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Milwaukee county (Wisconsin) recount completed.

Cost trump campaign $3m - result - added net 132 votes for Biden.

Good value.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
The Betfair statement leaves many questions unanswered. The market rules still state "Faithless elector will have no effect on the settlement", is that still applicable? The electors can't be changed after Decemeber 8th so why the need to wait until the actual vote unless faithless electors can change the result?

Will state markets also not be settled unitl December 14th? The market is for the popular vote winner in each state, nothing got to do with electors, so why wait until then?
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greenmark wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:01 am
Given that the President elect has access to the very best medical expertise, I doubt that him dropping dead is remotely likely.
I'm afraid it's an absolute certainty at some point - no amount of medical care can prevent it. :P
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jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was still the winner in those circumstances as he has the most projected votes. They normally settle the market as soon as the loser concedes which implies the death of the president elect wouldn't affect the market.
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Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:52 am
jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:54 pm
Betfair confirming that they will likely settle the market after the EC votes on December 14th

https://betting.betfair.com/politics/us ... 0-204.html
Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was still the winner in those circumstances as he has the most projected votes. They normally settle the market as soon as the loser concedes which implies the death of the president elect wouldn't affect the market.
Could refer to the 'projected votes' of the EC following the Dec 14th meeting. Thus why BF specifically call out the 'faithless electors' clause. ie the result is based on what the Electors agree to vote for, not who they actually vote for.
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What does "Pennsylvania Republican Legislature To Reclaim Electoral Votes" mean ? :roll:
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jamesedwards wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:45 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:52 am
jamesedwards wrote:
Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:56 pm


Explains the interest on Trump and Harris since the vote then. If Biden was to die before 14th it's possible the EC could agree to vote for Harris in his place. Also it's possible Trump could get to the EC and overturn their voting.
I wouldn't be surprised if Biden was still the winner in those circumstances as he has the most projected votes. They normally settle the market as soon as the loser concedes which implies the death of the president elect wouldn't affect the market.
Could refer to the 'projected votes' of the EC following the Dec 14th meeting. Thus why BF specifically call out the 'faithless electors' clause. ie the result is based on what the Electors agree to vote for, not who they actually vote for.
I've asked before on this thread, what is the definition of a 'projected EC vote'? I doubt anyone's sure but my guess is that Biden has already aquired the majority of them. Either way, I wouldn't want to back Biden without fully understanding the rules and I'm not sure Betfair fully understand what they've written. :)
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