US Presidential Election 2020

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jamesg46
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:55 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:36 pm
Mitch McConnell (flipping hypocrite) suggested Trump could face charges in a criminal court. Biden will have the electric chair ready before he leaves office. :D

Never any chance of conviction but the managers did a good presentation and spoke with emotion and annimation in stark contrast to Trump's dopey lawyer - I wasn't sure if he was drunk or normally presents like that!
Trump's had to make do with a personal injury lawyer because nobody else wanted to represent him :lol:

I was wrong about the Senate trial I thought a simple majority is enough to ban Trump from holding office again but that only goes to a vote if he's convicted first so he's free to run again in 4 years.

I think the best thing that could happen for American politics is if he DOES run again and gets beaten in the Republican primary. That would be a clear mandate from his own party that they don't want him anymore. Ted Cruz is definitely going to run in 2022 but he would have to unglue himself from Trump's ass and run against him if that were to happen so that would be interesting to see in itself and if Trump lost and tried to claim the vote was rigged he'd be accusing the Republican party itself of cheating.

Absolute scenes! :D
I guess we're forgetting the theory that Trump runs as an independent? A little bit of research will tell you that he was never a Republican or Democrat, probably why we now have talks of a new party.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:55 pm
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:36 pm
Mitch McConnell (flipping hypocrite) suggested Trump could face charges in a criminal court. Biden will have the electric chair ready before he leaves office. :D

Never any chance of conviction but the managers did a good presentation and spoke with emotion and annimation in stark contrast to Trump's dopey lawyer - I wasn't sure if he was drunk or normally presents like that!
Trump's had to make do with a personal injury lawyer because nobody else wanted to represent him :lol:

I was wrong about the Senate trial I thought a simple majority is enough to ban Trump from holding office again but that only goes to a vote if he's convicted first so he's free to run again in 4 years.

I think the best thing that could happen for American politics is if he DOES run again and gets beaten in the Republican primary. That would be a clear mandate from his own party that they don't want him anymore. Ted Cruz is definitely going to run in 2022 but he would have to unglue himself from Trump's ass and run against him if that were to happen so that would be interesting to see in itself and if Trump lost and tried to claim the vote was rigged he'd be accusing the Republican party itself of cheating.

Absolute scenes! :D
If he runs again he could very well become president, because Americans are flipping nutters! I wonder how many of them would even remember the chaos.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:19 pm
I guess we're forgetting the theory that Trump runs as an independent? A little bit of research will tell you that he was never a Republican or Democrat, probably why we now have talks of a new party.

Interesting idea, would get him around the minefield of a primary and might be a strategy he could use if these rumours about starting his own network are true. But it would be practically impossible to get elected as an independent without the Republican party apparatus behind him.

Most people and the media included keep making the same mistake when they say 74m people voted for Donald Trump, most of those people voted for the Republican Party candidate not for Trump, its not the same thing. If he was an independent only his base would vote for him which wouldn't be near enough for him to be elected.
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superfrank wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:18 pm
No charges for the still unnamed police officer who shot dead an unarmed woman inside the Capitol. Whitewash.
Are you being serious? I'm surprised they didn't open fire on all of them. That's what bodyguards/security guards are for. And she was armed...with a 2000 strong mob. Do you expect the police to arrest and search all of them?
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:29 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:19 pm
I guess we're forgetting the theory that Trump runs as an independent? A little bit of research will tell you that he was never a Republican or Democrat, probably why we now have talks of a new party.

Interesting idea, would get him around the minefield of a primary and might be a strategy he could use if these rumours about starting his own network are true. But it would be practically impossible to get elected as an independent without the Republican party apparatus behind him.

Most people and the media included keep making the same mistake when they say 74m people voted for Donald Trump, most of those people voted for the Republican Party candidate not for Trump, its not the same thing. If he was an independent only his base would vote for him which wouldn't be near enough for him to be elected.
It's not about Republican or Democrat, it never has been, it's about the military complex & the corporate complex... Trumps backers are the military complex, politicians backers are the lobbyists, I.e the corporate complex. The people don't matter.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:35 pm
It's not about Republican or Democrat, it never has been, it's about the military complex & the corporate complex... Trumps backers are the military complex, politicians backers are the lobbyists, I.e the corporate complex. The people don't matter.

If any of that were true and the people didn't matter he would have been re-elected.

His appeal to most Republicans was exaggerated , he's the only president since records began that never had an approval rating above 50% at any time during his tenure.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:40 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:35 pm
It's not about Republican or Democrat, it never has been, it's about the military complex & the corporate complex... Trumps backers are the military complex, politicians backers are the lobbyists, I.e the corporate complex. The people don't matter.

If any of that were true and the people didn't matter he would have been re-elected.

His appeal to most Republicans was exaggerated , he's the only president since records began that never had an approval rating above 50% at any time during his tenure.
Not necessarily, the corporate complex controls the narrative, it also has the power to manipulate what people see & suppress what people say (censorship is not a conspiracy).. it's pretty clear imo, look who is taking who's side.

Flipping that coin, look at Trumps main interests, rebuilding the military, SpaceForce... and of course the bail out of one of Americas most influential military companies... Boeing.
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Not necessarily, the corporate complex controls the narrative, it also has the power to manipulate what people see & suppress what people say (censorship is not a conspiracy)..
You've heard of Fox News right? Fox News has been the most watched news channel in the States every year for 20 years.

jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Flipping that coin, look at Trumps main interests, rebuilding the military, SpaceForce... and of course the bail out of one of Americas most influential military companies... Boeing.
Saying he'd rebuild the military was just a way to get the average American's attention just like building the wall. You think somebody who dodged the draft cares about the average grunt? As for supporting the Boeing bailout any president would have done that, they're one of America's biggest military contractors.
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Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:15 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Not necessarily, the corporate complex controls the narrative, it also has the power to manipulate what people see & suppress what people say (censorship is not a conspiracy)..
You've heard of Fox News right? Fox News has been the most watched news channel in the States every year for 20 years.

jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Flipping that coin, look at Trumps main interests, rebuilding the military, SpaceForce... and of course the bail out of one of Americas most influential military companies... Boeing.
Saying he'd rebuild the military was just a way to get the average American's attention just like building the wall. You think somebody who dodged the draft cares about the average grunt? As for supporting the Boeing bailout any president would have done that, they're one of America's biggest military contractors.
I posted this in stuff to watch but with a purpose of meaning for this thread.

https://youtu.be/5nTx_Pi1x9Q
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Biden's discipline regime already under the spotlight for not immediately firing a press secretary for threatening a reporter. That privilege was reserved for Kayleigh. :)
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:59 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:15 pm
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Not necessarily, the corporate complex controls the narrative, it also has the power to manipulate what people see & suppress what people say (censorship is not a conspiracy)..
You've heard of Fox News right? Fox News has been the most watched news channel in the States every year for 20 years.

jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 10:58 pm
Flipping that coin, look at Trumps main interests, rebuilding the military, SpaceForce... and of course the bail out of one of Americas most influential military companies... Boeing.
Saying he'd rebuild the military was just a way to get the average American's attention just like building the wall. You think somebody who dodged the draft cares about the average grunt? As for supporting the Boeing bailout any president would have done that, they're one of America's biggest military contractors.
I posted this in stuff to watch but with a purpose of meaning for this thread.

https://youtu.be/5nTx_Pi1x9Q
What a tit - lost £10K on a madman winning the US election and expects people to listen to him talk finances. :lol:
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 4:34 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:59 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:15 pm


You've heard of Fox News right? Fox News has been the most watched news channel in the States every year for 20 years.




Saying he'd rebuild the military was just a way to get the average American's attention just like building the wall. You think somebody who dodged the draft cares about the average grunt? As for supporting the Boeing bailout any president would have done that, they're one of America's biggest military contractors.
I posted this in stuff to watch but with a purpose of meaning for this thread.

https://youtu.be/5nTx_Pi1x9Q
What a tit - lost £10K on a madman winning the US election and expects people to listen to him talk finances. :lol:
The point of the video wasn't the advert at the beginning :lol: made me chuckle that the advert got more of a response from you than the actual documentary (head space rent free joke comes to mind). I don't listen to Farage for financial advise, but he seems to be doing alright for himself & considering he's a millionaire I doubt a 10k bet will have him losing any sleep.... that's almost as nonsensical as saying we shouldn't listen to advise from professional traders because they lose 20% of the time... but without considering the loss is relative to either net worth or past/future gains.
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I am literally dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://youtu.be/Slm5bvO-_5I
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Realrocknrolla wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:06 am
I am literally dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://youtu.be/Slm5bvO-_5I
Give the guy a break, he grew up with a stammer, or stutter as they prefer to call it. ;)
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Derek27 wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:58 am
Realrocknrolla wrote:
Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:06 am
I am literally dying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://youtu.be/Slm5bvO-_5I
Give the guy a break, he grew up with a stammer, or stutter as they prefer to call it. ;)
😂😂😂 Kinda makes me think 💭. People didn’t know who they were voting for, or the majority. Just that they were voting against Trump.
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