US Presidential Election 2020

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Archery1969
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The FBI have identified and are closing in on over 200 suspects who are planning armed discruptions leading upto the 20th January. :o
Trader Pat
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Meanwhile in other news the NRA have filed for bankruptcy...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... e92d8b7962

Looks like its some kind of ploy to avoid criminal charges by moving its operations from New York to Texas
greenmark
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Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:04 pm
Meanwhile in other news the NRA have filed for bankruptcy...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... e92d8b7962

Looks like its some kind of ploy to avoid criminal charges by moving its operations from New York to Texas
A politicians approach to regulating anything is not prohibition (particularly in the US they've got the T-shirt about how well that works)..Bdien will attempt to begin the encroachment of the regulation. But Obama failed and Biden will too, which is very, very sad in my view. The right to bear arms is total bollocks. Except for being surrounded by right-wing looney tune survivalists threatening civil war if they lose their toys.
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:55 pm
Trader Pat wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:04 pm
Meanwhile in other news the NRA have filed for bankruptcy...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre ... e92d8b7962

Looks like its some kind of ploy to avoid criminal charges by moving its operations from New York to Texas
A politicians approach to regulating anything is not prohibition (particularly in the US they've got the T-shirt about how well that works)..Bdien will attempt to begin the encroachment of the regulation. But Obama failed and Biden will too, which is very, very sad in my view. The right to bear arms is total bollocks. Except for being surrounded by right-wing looney tune survivalists threatening civil war if they lose their toys.
You'd hope with control of the House & Senate they'd at least be able to get tighter gun control laws. Even that though could be reversed by a future president or the courts.

I think they need some kind of referendum on gun control. A majority of the public voting for it would be much tougher to overturn.
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greenmark wrote:
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:55 pm
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The right to bear arms is total bollocks. Except for being surrounded by right-wing looney tune survivalists threatening civil war if they lose their toys.
The right to bear arms is total bollocks. Except for being surrounded by left-wing radicals starting civil war cause they couldn't get their etatistical laws by legal way.
Archery1969
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The right to bear arms is not bollocks at all.

Not everyone lives in a major city and can rely on the Police turning up in < 5 mins. Many Americans live miles from local law enforcement where they could wait upto 30 mins for help to arrive. If your in the middle of a home invasion then you need to be able to protect yourself, family and property. And dont forget some people live near to some prettry wild animals being Bears and Wolves.

For many reasons Biden and all other presidents will always fail to dissarm its citizens, mainly because the horse has already bolted. There is no firearm registry, so nobody knows who has what or how many. Asking people to just hand them over would never work in countries where each firearm is not listed, some being USA, Canada, Austria and New Zealand.

If you take the UK then from personal experience getting a shotgun is a piece of piss unless your known to the police for the wrong reasons, have mental health problems or spent x years in prison.
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 10:27 am
Not everyone lives in a major city and can rely on the Police turning up in < 5 mins. Many Americans live miles from local law enforcement where they could wait upto 30 mins for help to arrive. If your in the middle of a home invasion then you need to be able to protect yourself, family and property. And dont forget some people live near to some prettry wild animals being Bears and Wolves.
Most households assume their neighbours are armed in rural America, deterring all but the most determined criminals.

Guns are a great leveller and great for crime prevention. Should have the same rights here.
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25,000 troops in DC under Trumps order. Why? To protect Biden or to protect Trump. Trump hasn't conceded, will Biden keep his promise and have Trump pulled from the Whitehouse? One thing is for certain (imo) this is the best real time movie ever... the whole world is watching & everyone is talking about the plot.
Archery1969
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:06 am
25,000 troops in DC under Trumps order. Why? To protect Biden or to protect Trump. Trump hasn't conceded, will Biden keep his promise and have Trump pulled from the Whitehouse? One thing is for certain (imo) this is the best real time movie ever... the whole world is watching & everyone is talking about the plot.
Maybe they are there to stop.........

https://springboardplatform.com/storage ... 741355.mp4
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It can be easy for us Europeans to overlook just how recently the 'Wild West' was really wild and lawless - but to put it into perspective we were installing telephones and record players, enjoying Swan Lake etc at the same time as Bill Hickock was getting shot in Deadwood, Custer was making his last stand and Wyatt Earp was getting sworn in.
jamesg46
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:06 am
25,000 troops in DC under Trumps order. Why? To protect Biden or to protect Trump. Trump hasn't conceded, will Biden keep his promise and have Trump pulled from the Whitehouse? One thing is for certain (imo) this is the best real time movie ever... the whole world is watching & everyone is talking about the plot.
Maybe they are there to stop.........

https://springboardplatform.com/storage ... 741355.mp4
:lol: tbh I wouldnt rule anything out at this point. Have we witnessed anything like this before?
Archery1969
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jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:21 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:06 am
25,000 troops in DC under Trumps order. Why? To protect Biden or to protect Trump. Trump hasn't conceded, will Biden keep his promise and have Trump pulled from the Whitehouse? One thing is for certain (imo) this is the best real time movie ever... the whole world is watching & everyone is talking about the plot.
Maybe they are there to stop.........

https://springboardplatform.com/storage ... 741355.mp4
:lol: tbh I wouldnt rule anything out at this point. Have we witnessed anything like this before?
Yes but on a much smaller scale using a single drone. "Inside the drone attack that nearly killed a world leader"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPgbKRgYwpc
Archery1969
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Chatter on "Gab" and "The Donald" is urging its following not to do anything on inauguration day as its a setup by authorities.

"Instead they should wait until things have died down, security is less restrictive and a sense of normality has resumed. In the meantime makesure you are using the maximum encryption. Remember, they have to be right all of the time but we only need to be right once"

Lets hope the secret service is on the ball for the next 4 years.
jamesg46
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Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:32 am
jamesg46 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:21 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Sat Jan 16, 2021 11:10 am


Maybe they are there to stop.........

https://springboardplatform.com/storage ... 741355.mp4
:lol: tbh I wouldnt rule anything out at this point. Have we witnessed anything like this before?
Yes but on a much smaller scale using a single drone. "Inside the drone attack that nearly killed a world leader"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPgbKRgYwpc
Something very serious it seems is being anticipated, Biden is hosting a virtual inauguration apparently so it leads my mind to wonder (doesn't take much) what the hell is going on.

There is a guy on youtube who is from the US & ex military (he says) who tracks activity in the sky through flight radar apps & last night there were loads of C13s in and out of DC, military aren't there for show, only thing they don't seem to have on the streets of DC right now are tanks.
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