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He being arrested and charged next week.
Feel like the mugshot is going to be a big deal, it'll be on every station and every newspaper in the country
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I don't think so, he's got more indictments in the next couple of months imo, that's why he's been fundraising so hard. He'll have nothing left to actually campaign with if he even gets that far.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:46 amCan't believe it. They're virtually handing him the presidency back.
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Every single Trump fan will show up on polling day to vote. Perhaps they are banking on a deal where he gets off in return for not running?Naffman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:07 amI don't think so, he's got more indictments in the next couple of months imo, that's why he's been fundraising so hard. He'll have nothing left to actually campaign with if he even gets that far.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:46 amCan't believe it. They're virtually handing him the presidency back.
DeSantis has better favourables among GOP voters, but if he was out the picture then Trump would be very very difficult to beat.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:14 amEvery single Trump fan will show up on polling day to vote. Perhaps they are banking on a deal where he gets off in return for not running?Naffman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 1:07 amI don't think so, he's got more indictments in the next couple of months imo, that's why he's been fundraising so hard. He'll have nothing left to actually campaign with if he even gets that far.jamesedwards wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:46 am
Can't believe it. They're virtually handing him the presidency back.
Yeah, top Republicans will be crossing everything that a deal like that could be made, I'm not sure what the endgame is but I know it's going to get a lot worse for him in the coming months.
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Even if Trump is found guilty its very unlikely he will do jail/prison time. The secret service have to protect the current and former presidents for life. How that would work in Jail has not been thought about. Not saying it couldn't happen but would be a complete nightmare from a security point of view. I guess you could put him in solitary confinement 24/7 with Secret service outside the door or watching remotely via CCTV. It would also be a first in US history. More likely is house arrest and large fine. This could all be plea bargained away if he agrees not to run for president ever again.
What could be more worrying for the authorities is that a large number of Trump supports, armed, could cause untold deaths. You also need to factor in that the Republicans could block everything coming from the Senate as happened a few years back when government staff didn't get paid and were basically left in no mans land. Effectively, government stopped working. Not something you want happening with Russia/China in a party mood.
Obviously, Judges wont care about all this and will just apply the law. Although, Trump appointed two to the supreme court so will be intersesting to see what happens if it all ends up there. Again, not saying they maybe bias but I not sure they will agree with a former president being held in a jail/prison regardless of what laws have been broken.
And dont forget if/when a Republican becomes president again he/she will 100% have Trump set free and pardoned.
There is allot rethoric on Telegram channels used by Trump supporters stating "This is going to be the ultimate backfire’, ‘we’re ready when you are, Mr President’".
What could be more worrying for the authorities is that a large number of Trump supports, armed, could cause untold deaths. You also need to factor in that the Republicans could block everything coming from the Senate as happened a few years back when government staff didn't get paid and were basically left in no mans land. Effectively, government stopped working. Not something you want happening with Russia/China in a party mood.
Obviously, Judges wont care about all this and will just apply the law. Although, Trump appointed two to the supreme court so will be intersesting to see what happens if it all ends up there. Again, not saying they maybe bias but I not sure they will agree with a former president being held in a jail/prison regardless of what laws have been broken.
And dont forget if/when a Republican becomes president again he/she will 100% have Trump set free and pardoned.
There is allot rethoric on Telegram channels used by Trump supporters stating "This is going to be the ultimate backfire’, ‘we’re ready when you are, Mr President’".
Didn't the French President Sarkozy go to prison? I'd imagine he has secret service agents too.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:21 pmEven if Trump is found guilty its very unlikely he will do jail/prison time. The secret service have to protect the current and former presidents for life. How that would work in Jail has not been thought about. Not saying it couldn't happen but would be a complete nightmare from a security point of view. I guess you could put him in solitary confinement 24/7 with Secret service outside the door or watching remotely via CCTV. It would also be a first in US history. More likely is house arrest and large fine. This could all be plea bargained away if he agrees not to run for president ever again.
What could be more worrying for the authorities is that a large number of Trump supports, armed, could cause untold deaths. You also need to factor in that the Republicans could block everything coming from the Senate as happened a few years back when government staff didn't get paid and were basically left in no mans land. Effectively, government stopped working. Not something you want happening with Russia/China in a party mood.
Obviously, Judges wont care about all this and will just apply the law. Although, Trump appointed two to the supreme court so will be intersesting to see what happens if it all ends up there. Again, not saying they maybe bias but I not sure they will agree with a former president being held in a jail/prison regardless of what laws have been broken.
And dont forget if/when a Republican becomes president again he/she will 100% have Trump set free and pardoned.
There is allot rethoric on Telegram channels used by Trump supporters stating "This is going to be the ultimate backfire’, ‘we’re ready when you are, Mr President’".
I've heard as because it's a local case, a President cannot pardon him, they can if it were a federal case.
They have to say that though don't they, if you go on Twitter you'd think DeSantis is hated by half of Republicans...it's the old conservative GOP voter in a small town in Iowa you have to think of, what's he thinking...
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France doesn't have the same rules for ex presidents.Naffman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:10 pmDidn't the French President Sarkozy go to prison? I'd imagine he has secret service agents too.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 31, 2023 12:21 pmEven if Trump is found guilty its very unlikely he will do jail/prison time. The secret service have to protect the current and former presidents for life. How that would work in Jail has not been thought about. Not saying it couldn't happen but would be a complete nightmare from a security point of view. I guess you could put him in solitary confinement 24/7 with Secret service outside the door or watching remotely via CCTV. It would also be a first in US history. More likely is house arrest and large fine. This could all be plea bargained away if he agrees not to run for president ever again.
What could be more worrying for the authorities is that a large number of Trump supports, armed, could cause untold deaths. You also need to factor in that the Republicans could block everything coming from the Senate as happened a few years back when government staff didn't get paid and were basically left in no mans land. Effectively, government stopped working. Not something you want happening with Russia/China in a party mood.
Obviously, Judges wont care about all this and will just apply the law. Although, Trump appointed two to the supreme court so will be intersesting to see what happens if it all ends up there. Again, not saying they maybe bias but I not sure they will agree with a former president being held in a jail/prison regardless of what laws have been broken.
And dont forget if/when a Republican becomes president again he/she will 100% have Trump set free and pardoned.
There is allot rethoric on Telegram channels used by Trump supporters stating "This is going to be the ultimate backfire’, ‘we’re ready when you are, Mr President’".
I've heard as because it's a local case, a President cannot pardon him, they can if it were a federal case.
They have to say that though don't they, if you go on Twitter you'd think DeSantis is hated by half of Republicans...it's the old conservative GOP voter in a small town in Iowa you have to think of, what's he thinking...
Sarkozy was sentended to 3 years in prison, suspended for 2 and has appealed the original sentence meaning he stays free until a higher court rules otherwise. Furthermore a court sentenced him to 1 year in prison which he served at home wearing an eletronic tag.