Yes but its only a 2 horse race and she is 10 lengths in front. Sunak has no chance of turning the membership around even if they thought he was the better candidate. Wrongly or rightly he stabbed BJ in the back and the membership are never going to pick him in a million years.Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:01 pmShe's drifted to 1.13 after that debate. They both have an issue with admitting they were wrong. Truss does a U-turn but refuses to call it a mistake and blames her opponent's misrepresentation but completely ducked the questions when Kay challenged her over exactly what was misrepresented.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:33 pmIts a done deal, the membership is going with Truss 70/30 split. Don't forget you read it here first.
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It's not enough to turn it around but Sunak had a better debate. He came up with some good answers to banana skin questions.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:06 pmYes but its only a 2 horse race and she is 10 lengths in front. Sunak has no chance of turning the membership around even if they thought he was the better candidate. Wrongly or rightly he stabbed BJ in the back and the membership are never going to pick him in a million years.Derek27 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 11:01 pmShe's drifted to 1.13 after that debate. They both have an issue with admitting they were wrong. Truss does a U-turn but refuses to call it a mistake and blames her opponent's misrepresentation but completely ducked the questions when Kay challenged her over exactly what was misrepresented.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 04, 2022 10:33 pmIts a done deal, the membership is going with Truss 70/30 split. Don't forget you read it here first.
What a shit we're in! Dire forecast from the governor of the Bank of England and all the government can do is argue over what they will do in a month's time. No comment from that lump who's still the PM or the chancellor, who's only been given a job for two months and he takes a flipping holiday while his boss is on his honeymoon!
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To be fair the agreement by the 1922 committee was the current PM and Government would not do anything with the economy or on major policy until the new PM and Government was/is installed.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:05 amWhat a shit we're in! Dire forecast from the governor of the Bank of England and all the government can do is argue over what they will do in a month's time. No comment from that lump who's still the PM or the chancellor, who's only been given a job for two months and he takes a flipping holiday while his boss is on his honeymoon!
But September will be too late, its going to be a very bleak winter and new year for allot of people.
Makes you wonder what the point of a deputy PM is, even if it is a foreign secretary who goes on holiday during a major foreign office crisis!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:04 amTo be fair the agreement by the 1922 committee was the current PM and Government would not do anything with the economy or on major policy until the new PM and Government was/is installed.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:05 amWhat a shit we're in! Dire forecast from the governor of the Bank of England and all the government can do is argue over what they will do in a month's time. No comment from that lump who's still the PM or the chancellor, who's only been given a job for two months and he takes a flipping holiday while his boss is on his honeymoon!
But September will be too late, its going to be a very bleak winter and new year for allot of people.
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Not sure but I think the deputy PM steps in if the PM takes ill, goes to hospital or prison.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:48 amMakes you wonder what the point of a deputy PM is, even if it is a foreign secretary who goes on holiday during a major foreign office crisis!Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:04 amTo be fair the agreement by the 1922 committee was the current PM and Government would not do anything with the economy or on major policy until the new PM and Government was/is installed.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 2:05 amWhat a shit we're in! Dire forecast from the governor of the Bank of England and all the government can do is argue over what they will do in a month's time. No comment from that lump who's still the PM or the chancellor, who's only been given a job for two months and he takes a flipping holiday while his boss is on his honeymoon!
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Sunak is toast now.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
Even funnier, one of his supporters doubled down and said it's the right thing to do, only his interpretation of 'deprived urban areas' are cities that are no longer deprived! Do they even know what they sound like?Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:33 pmSunak is toast now.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
On top of that, Sunak exposed his true colours when people were starving and worrying things will get worse with the energy bill hike, and Sunak said he'll wait until autumn to see what he can do about it (and let them eat cake!).
It doesn't help that it looked as though it was filmed in a posh garden rather than a run-down deprived area.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:33 pmSunak is toast now.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
Truss will slam deprived areas way beyond the level of Sunak.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:12 pmIt doesn't help that it looked as though it was filmed in a posh garden rather than a run-down deprived area.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:33 pmSunak is toast now.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
She's going for tax cuts, which, with no ability to borrow more, will mean service cuts.
Truss likes to present herself as a no-nonsense Thatcher clone. But she has failed to explain the where the cuts will be. I think I know it will be in the Red wall constituencies that she knows are already lost.
A new PM and a fresh start may be the best way to get them back. If they were daft enough to trust the biggest liar in the history of parliament (who was sacked from the cabinet for lying) they could well trust Truss if she makes a few promises.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:16 pmTruss will slam deprived areas way beyond the level of Sunak.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 4:12 pmIt doesn't help that it looked as though it was filmed in a posh garden rather than a run-down deprived area.Archery1969 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 1:33 pmSunak is toast now.
A clip has emerged of ex-Chancellor Rishi Sunak saying he diverted public money from "deprived urban areas". In a video leaked to the New Statesman, the Tory leadership candidate tells an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, he wanted to ensure "areas like this" got the funding they deserved.
He fcuked.
She's going for tax cuts, which, with no ability to borrow more, will mean service cuts.
Truss likes to present herself as a no-nonsense Thatcher clone. But she has failed to explain the where the cuts will be. I think I know it will be in the Red wall constituencies that she knows are already lost.
The difference being BJ's claims of "getting brexit done" and "levelling up" has proved to be pure rhetoric. Red wall constituents are no more or less bright than anyone else. When their pockets are hit they wake up and want answers as to why we've wound up here.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:21 pmA new PM and a fresh start may be the best way to get them back. If they were daft enough to trust the biggest liar in the history of parliament (who was sacked from the cabinet for lying) they could well trust Truss if she makes a few promises.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:16 pmTruss will slam deprived areas way beyond the level of Sunak.
She's going for tax cuts, which, with no ability to borrow more, will mean service cuts.
Truss likes to present herself as a no-nonsense Thatcher clone. But she has failed to explain the where the cuts will be. I think I know it will be in the Red wall constituencies that she knows are already lost.
Sure covid and Ukraine are outside normality. But underlying that is a total failure "to exploit" the opportunites of Brexit. And Truss is hyping the same crap. Brexit has happened, now flipping show us these 'opportunities'. The Tory credibility on the economy is evaporating before our eyes. They haven't really a clue what they're doing. They're all scuttling around saving their fat arses.
Didn't you know, it will take 50 years to reap the benefits of Brexit. It was for your children's children's children.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 7:15 pmThe difference being BJ's claims of "getting brexit done" and "levelling up" has proved to be pure rhetoric. Red wall constituents are no more or less bright than anyone else. When their pockets are hit they wake up and want answers as to why we've wound up here.Derek27 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:21 pmA new PM and a fresh start may be the best way to get them back. If they were daft enough to trust the biggest liar in the history of parliament (who was sacked from the cabinet for lying) they could well trust Truss if she makes a few promises.greenmark wrote: ↑Fri Aug 05, 2022 6:16 pm
Truss will slam deprived areas way beyond the level of Sunak.
She's going for tax cuts, which, with no ability to borrow more, will mean service cuts.
Truss likes to present herself as a no-nonsense Thatcher clone. But she has failed to explain the where the cuts will be. I think I know it will be in the Red wall constituencies that she knows are already lost.
Sure covid and Ukraine are outside normality. But underlying that is a total failure "to exploit" the opportunites of Brexit. And Truss is hyping the same crap. Brexit has happened, now flipping show us these 'opportunities'. The Tory credibility on the economy is evaporating before our eyes. They haven't really a clue what they're doing. They're all scuttling around saving their fat arses.
Given how long we've had a Tory government, I can only assume it was Corbyn that made the red wall voters feel they're wasting their time voting Labour, so it was always gonna be an uphill task to hold onto those seats.
Sunak's back on TV, this time at an Eastbourne husting. I have to hand it to him, he's a much more confident speaker and more prime ministerial. Truss, when asked difficult questions, sounds more like a nervous job interviewee. Truss avoids difficult questions and shows her weakness whereas Sunak just pretends 'deprived' means 'inner city' and replies with more confidence.