Non-standard race times to be trialled in February 2020

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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:04 pm
Can anyone explain the logic of having a 14:42 at Musselburgh when the prev/next races were 14:30 and 14:50?

Same with the 15:17! Perhaps it's their last day of non-standard race times so they have to be non-standard, even if it's for no benefit.
Could be to do with projections in a crazy long day with 9+ meetings during a summer month when there's 3 races off at once, trying to limit it down to 2 at once, or jeepers.....they'll never get it down to 1 at a time, but bless them they're pretending to try!
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Back to this today I see. I’m not a fan at all
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dt888 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:29 am
Back to this today I see. I’m not a fan at all
I quite liked it in February, thought it worked quite well. The thing I hate when there are clashes is when you don’t know what’s going on. For example if there is a 1500 Lingfield, and a 1455 3m chase at ffos las, sometimes they decide to hold on, sometimes they decide to jump.

It’s frustrating when you don’t know what they are doing and they switch to the race as they are coming out of the stalls. And I find it equally frustrating when I close all my positions before scheduled off time, just to find them meandering around at the start and realise I’ve missed out on another 4 or 5 good minutes trading.

At least you know where you are and what’s happening with these new times. Though I guess they are not for everybody, and the same problems still exist when one meeting gets delayed or runs late anyway.
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dt888 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:29 am
Back to this today I see. I’m not a fan at all
Me neither, they'd be much better of solving their problems of poor race planning and courses that continually go off late, silly start times don't address any of the real problems.
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dt888 wrote:
Thu Oct 01, 2020 11:29 am
Back to this today I see. I’m not a fan at all
Can't see the point of it until they can get races off on time … How is a race timed for 14:42 any different than a race timed at 14:40 if they don't start until 14:44? They would do better to have 2 racecards … one for the public with a time of 14:44 and one for the horses with a time of 14:40, that would be more accurate!
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:52 am
How is a race timed for 14:42 any different than a race timed at 14:40 if they don't start until 14:44?
It will be 2 minutes late instead of 4. :)
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Good thinking coming up here. Lingfield put at 16.07, 2 minutes after wolves. 1610 would have been evenly spaced :roll:
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dt888 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:01 pm
Good thinking coming up here. Lingfield put at 16.07, 2 minutes after wolves. 1610 would have been evenly spaced :roll:
That would defeat the purpose of the trial. ;)
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dt888 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:01 pm
Good thinking coming up here. Lingfield put at 16.07, 2 minutes after wolves. 1610 would have been evenly spaced :roll:
Was just thinking the same :)
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Lingfield going off 4 minutes late because they were waiting for the 4.05 at Wolverhampton to finish. At 4.05 the runners in Wolverhampton were still walking around in circles.

Doesn't seem to be any appetite to get races off on time which was supposed to be the whole point of these non standard off times
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I'm sure it would work if they made more of an effort to get races off on time, more staff, better communications and somebody charged with organising the start, if not the starter. There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency.
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Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:17 pm
I'm sure it would work if they made more of an effort to get races off on time, more staff, better communications and somebody charged with organising the start, if not the starter. There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency.
That has always been my point Derek ... it's a typical case of those that make the rules and those that apply the rules not talking to each other!
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firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:26 am
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:17 pm
I'm sure it would work if they made more of an effort to get races off on time, more staff, better communications and somebody charged with organising the start, if not the starter. There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency.
That has always been my point Derek ... it's a typical case of those that make the rules and those that apply the rules not talking to each other!
How is it they always seem to go off to time in Australia? Or at least the vast majority of them do.
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ANGELS15 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:41 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:26 am
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:17 pm
I'm sure it would work if they made more of an effort to get races off on time, more staff, better communications and somebody charged with organising the start, if not the starter. There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency.
That has always been my point Derek ... it's a typical case of those that make the rules and those that apply the rules not talking to each other!
How is it they always seem to go off to time in Australia? Or at least the vast majority of them do.
They start loading into the barriers about 60-90 seconds before the scheduled start, plus it seems horses go into the stalls a lot easier
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ANGELS15 wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:41 pm
firlandsfarm wrote:
Fri Oct 23, 2020 5:26 am
Derek27 wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 4:17 pm
I'm sure it would work if they made more of an effort to get races off on time, more staff, better communications and somebody charged with organising the start, if not the starter. There just doesn't seem to be a sense of urgency.
That has always been my point Derek ... it's a typical case of those that make the rules and those that apply the rules not talking to each other!
How is it they always seem to go off to time in Australia? Or at least the vast majority of them do.
When I was late for work I'd come up with all sorts of excuses for it but my boss would say, just get up earlier!
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