Trading What I see !?

[goat68]

My take on 17:50:

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3rd long way above vwap, so drifting on low volume...?

[goat68]

Feel free to rubbish my commentary! just trying to figure things out.....?

[goat68]

Zzzzz
^ that means i'm going to sleep!

[ShaunWhite]

My take on 17:50:
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You might want to scale that volume in relation to the price of the horse, an odds-on horse will take many times what a 6.0 horse will simply because punters have to bet bigger to get the same return or liability. As you know you need a grand down at 1.5 to win 500 but only £100 at 6.0 to win the same. And/or you could look at vol as a %age of the overall market vol.

The best thing to do though is just watch 00s of markets, most people clock up 000s before they start to see through the noise.

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[wearthefoxhat]

Really messed up...
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We all have those days, just gotta try and read the signs...

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[goat68]

Really messed up...
betPnL.jpg

We all have those days, just gotta try and read the signs...


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+1 Thanks

[Anbell]

Really messed up...
betPnL.jpg

We all have those days, just gotta try and read the signs...


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Goat turns either left or right at every. single. intersection.

[TLindeth]

My take on 17:50:
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You might want to scale that volume in relation to the price of the horse, an odds-on horse will take many times what a 6.0 horse will simply because punters have to bet bigger to get the same return or liability. As you know you need a grand down at 1.5 to win 500 but only £100 at 6.0 to win the same. And/or you could look at vol as a %age of the overall market vol.

The best thing to do though is just watch 00s of markets, most people clock up 000s before they start to see through the noise.

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This is key Goat!

[goat68]

My take on 17:50:
EDIT2.jpg

You might want to scale that volume in relation to the price of the horse, an odds-on horse will take many times what a 6.0 horse will simply because punters have to bet bigger to get the same return or liability. As you know you need a grand down at 1.5 to win 500 but only £100 at 6.0 to win the same. And/or you could look at vol as a %age of the overall market vol.

The best thing to do though is just watch 00s of markets, most people clock up 000s before they start to see through the noise.

viewtopic.php?p=139203

This is key Goat!

Thanks, yes just realized this... i'll update my charting this evening, cheers

[JasBarrow]

So i'm extended my data analysis program and analysing the charts for patterns, just added selection volume bars. One thing I do notice is the volume profile for various races is actually quite different! Take these 2 both Hcaps, but volume more bunched in one, distributed in the other...
Top graph=Net Backing activity measure
Middle=Prices with VWAP
Bot=Selection volumes
Chelm 17:20 today:
market_ChelmC 4th Mar - 17_20 1m Hcap.jpg
Chelm 17:50 today:
market_ChelmC 4th Mar - 17_50 6f Hcap.jpg

Hi Goat

Stupid question in advance I know but how to you gather then display that data?

[beermonsterman]

Shaun nailed it sit on your hands until the pattern becomes visible then get involved screen time is probably the most helpful thing you can do for your self and believe me dont over complicate anything its really quite simple once you see it I'm lucky at the min to get 1 trade a day in but I will wait for them and when things pick up I could get 4 a day just how it goes
Automation gathering data for me sped up my progress as I cant be in front of the screen all the time

[goat68]

So i'm extended my data analysis program and analysing the charts for patterns, just added selection volume bars. One thing I do notice is the volume profile for various races is actually quite different! Take these 2 both Hcaps, but volume more bunched in one, distributed in the other...
Top graph=Net Backing activity measure
Middle=Prices with VWAP
Bot=Selection volumes
Chelm 17:20 today:
market_ChelmC 4th Mar - 17_20 1m Hcap.jpg
Chelm 17:50 today:
market_ChelmC 4th Mar - 17_50 6f Hcap.jpg

Hi Goat

Stupid question in advance I know but how to you gather then display that data?

Hi, I have a "CollectData" Guardian automation BAF that collects every stat available to store in a Stored Value at an interval of 1second, then also every second use the "Export Stored Values to CSV" . So you end up for every market with a large CSV text file, mines about 4MB each for 30mins->Off collection.
I have then written my own Java based program that reads as input one of the CSVs and draws the above graphs...

[JasBarrow]

Hi, I have a "CollectData" Guardian automation BAF that collects every stat available to store in a Stored Value at an interval of 1second, then also every second use the "Export Stored Values to CSV" . So you end up for every market with a large CSV text file, mines about 4MB each for 30mins->Off collection.
I have then written my own Java based program that reads as input one of the CSVs and draws the above graphs...

Thats really cool! I thought you could only do that through excel.

Do you have to use a java program to draw the graphs or is there a way of doing it through excel for idiots like me?!

[Trader724]

Do you have to use a java program to draw the graphs or is there a way of doing it through excel for idiots like me?!

If you know how to plot graphs in Excel you're good to go. Import the CSV file in Excel and play with it.

[JasBarrow]

Ok thanks guys