Trading What I see !?

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Archery1969
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 3:48 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 10:27 pm

There is a system for you here if you can do the number crunching.

Top 5 Race Courses with highest number of losers trading <= 1.20
Highest number losing or highest proportion losing?

So it's the All Weather tracks? Apart from Chelmsford City and Newcastle which have a 'fairer' finish. I'm clueless about horseracing but I did read Cranberry's guide to the All Weather recently to see how they differ :)
Hi Shaun,

It was highest number losing.

I chose <= 1.2 out of thin air as that seemd to give a good level or trades but with still low risk. Between Jan and April this year 29 horses have been gubbed at 1.01, the majority of those at All Weather Tracks too.

Interesting that we have 23 races today which potentially fit the bill.

Also, i havent looked at how many trade below 1.2, then go back above 2.4 but still go onto win. ;)

I am going to setup a bot for this afternoon which Lay's all selections at 1.2, attempts to green-up at 100% at Wolverhampton, Lingfield and Southwell and see what happens. Just use small stakes. You never know Rodney. :D
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Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 10:27 pm
There is a system for you here if you can do the number crunching.

Top 5 Race Courses with highest number of losers trading <= 1.20
So glad you posted that !

Got different answers from my database. Eventually remembered they switched from abbreviations in the hint to long track names on 5th March which I haven't sorted out yet - did my search on long names only. Think a new venue field is urgently needed in my database let alone rewriting all sorts of queries etc.

Job to do :lol:
Archery1969
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foxwood wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:16 am
Archery1969 wrote:
Mon May 03, 2021 10:27 pm
There is a system for you here if you can do the number crunching.

Top 5 Race Courses with highest number of losers trading <= 1.20
So glad you posted that !

Got different answers from my database. Eventually remembered they switched from abbreviations in the hint to long track names on 5th March which I haven't sorted out yet - did my search on long names only. Think a new venue field is urgently needed in my database let alone rewriting all sorts of queries etc.

Job to do :lol:
Yeah, i didn't realise that either, i bet thats caught allot of bot owners out. :lol:
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So, first race at Lingfield went to plan and two horses traded at 1.01 :)

Better put the house on the market and get some large amounts of cash on. :lol:
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So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":
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Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:
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goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 pm
So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":
Screenshot 2021-05-04 at 16.34.57.png
Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:

Reckon you'll get to 100+ first..
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wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:20 pm
goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 pm
So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":
Screenshot 2021-05-04 at 16.34.57.png
Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:

Reckon you'll get to 100+ first..
I like your optimism!
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goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 6:34 pm
wearthefoxhat wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 5:20 pm
goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 pm
So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":
Screenshot 2021-05-04 at 16.34.57.png
Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:

Reckon you'll get to 100+ first..
I like your optimism!
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I have been combing through dog results paying attention to betfair sp hoping to find grounds for building a value bot but so far have found nothing, those dog markets are more efficient than i would have thought when you look at them in a large sample.
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goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 pm
So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":

Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:
Making no excuse for being nosey, what is it that you're doing? :) The way you talk about strike rate makes me think you're backing or laying pre-off and only looking for a couple of ticks in-running.
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ShaunWhite wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 7:29 pm
goat68 wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 4:36 pm
So far so good, PnL, changed number of ticks taken today which is "kink":

Waiting for the first loss to come.... :!:
Making no excuse for being nosey, what is it that you're doing? :) The way you talk about strike rate makes me think you're backing or laying pre-off and only looking for a couple of ticks in-running.
Just following this dodgy geezer on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN1WkDSNkrU
Wouldn't touch him with a barge pole if I were you...!!
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goat68
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Tomorrow's selections lock and loaded! Only took me 40mins analysis this time, getting quicker!
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goat68
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2 days, 29 wins 0 losses and +£28 so got some headroom for 2-3 losses, which I am sure will come tomorrow, 29wins in a row is well above expected, which I estimate I should lose 1 in 15, so should get 3 losers tomorrow!
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goat68
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L2B or B2L is probably more like just "betting" than pure trading, any "edge" is purely in your selections really, but Guardian certainly fits the bill for it.
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Can I get my "post count" up any quicker?!
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