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Trading What I see !?
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Trader Pat
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eatyourgreens
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Yeah, dogs definitely unchanged. Horses i've done a small tweak, it's harder to tweak as I can't backtest reliably as i'm now "in the data", so any small tweaks I use live stats feedback. The horses were showing a matching rate that wasn't quite what I think it should be, so i've tweaked a param to hopefully bring that inline..
Goaty, well done mate, tell me, what’s your programming background without trawling through the thread & what does the prog you picked up from Liam offer you that BA automation doesn’t?, as you can probably tell I’m totally alien to automation, can’t seem to grasp it all, maybe to do with other stuff going on but willing to learn
So I have several decades of programming experience (COBOL, PLI, C, C++, Java, scripting, Python,...), so it's second nature to me.Korattt wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 2:36 pmGoaty, well done mate, tell me, what’s your programming background without trawling through the thread & what does the prog you picked up from Liam offer you that BA automation doesn’t?, as you can probably tell I’m totally alien to automation, can’t seem to grasp it all, maybe to do with other stuff going on but willing to learn
Liam's betfairlightweight and flumine, now part of betcode-org can be found here: https://github.com/betcode-org/betfair
They are basically Python wrappers to the Betfair betting and streaming APIs.
The difference between BA Guardian automation and bflw/Flumine, is basically the intended consumer, they both are probably capable of the same/similar things, but BA is more for the non-programmer, offering an easy interface for quickly putting together and running sets of pre-canned bot rules to achieve your automation.
Flumine offers the programmer guru a set of Python wrapper classes/modules which gives you a more betfair API level control to create your own bot.
April so far:
- Dogs fantastic
- Horses letting down a bit, but improving
- One nasty failed hedge cost -£99 ! (..cookie crumbles..)
- Some strategy execution improvements, hopefully keep actual closer to besthedge
- Dogs fantastic
- Horses letting down a bit, but improving
- One nasty failed hedge cost -£99 ! (..cookie crumbles..)
- Some strategy execution improvements, hopefully keep actual closer to besthedge
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ShaunWhite
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Looking good Grasshopper.
Whether or not you want a cleaner close might depend on how much they cost you vs the longer term benefit. They'll take 20% off you anyway so maybe better that you're the paying 20%+ yourself rather than via PC, and keeping your eye on reducing future costs while your numbers are small enough to affect.
...I guess you're starting to build up the stakes now to find the point where you break it?
Im still trying to get the horses right, so I understand where the value is.ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:52 pmLooking good Grasshopper.
Whether or not you want a cleaner close might depend on how much they cost you vs the longer term benefit. They'll take 20% off you anyway so maybe better that you're the paying 20%+ yourself rather than via PC, and keeping your eye on reducing future costs while your numbers are small enough to affect.
...I guess you're starting to build up the stakes now to find the point where you break it?
But yes, then i want to dial a few params to add some known variance to increase the grprofit to gen comm %.. i need to judge where i am at the moment, about 12% i think.
As you say id rather 20% on my own decent profit, rather than a PC tax !
It doesn't pay to have a high win% i think, due to the implied commission meaning it basically gets halved..
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ShaunWhite
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On Uk stuff it doesn't matter much, other's gains are taken to be 3%, yours at 2%.....so you either get half of 3% or half of 2%.
But on the Aus it's different because your gains are paying commisson at 6,7,8+% and you get creditted with half, but implied comms assumes the other side is only on a 3% rate, and you get half.
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You do hear it said though that the best way to have a bigger net is to just have a bigger gross, so all the time spent on the jiggery pokery might be better spent on just having a better strategy. My old man used to say he wanted to be the guy who paid the most tax and get the point
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So bigger gross, you mean just bet more and bigger and dont worry about 20% PC jiggery pokery...?ShaunWhite wrote: ↑Mon Apr 11, 2022 3:10 amOn Uk stuff it doesn't matter much, other's gains are taken to be 3%, yours at 2%.....so you either get half of 3% or half of 2%.
But on the Aus it's different because your gains are paying commisson at 6,7,8+% and you get creditted with half, but implied comms assumes the other side is only on a 3% rate, and you get half.
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You do hear it said though that the best way to have a bigger net is to just have a bigger gross, so all the time spent on the jiggery pokery might be better spent on just having a better strategy. My old man used to say he wanted to be the guy who paid the most tax and get the point