Trading What I see !?

[Korattt]

gotcha Shaun, thanks

[goat68]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:

Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png

Horses:

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[goat68]

Damn, I keep an archive of every bot change, and I did an execution tweak a week ago to reduce downside of Aus Dog early starts where they start 2mins before they are supposed to! Unfortunately I unintentionally tweaked another param, I shall un-tweak! but very interesting....!

[goat68]

Not so worried about horses... working on those slowly...

[Trader Pat]

Good to see the progress on the dogs is continuing Goat, well done

[goat68]

Good to see the progress on the dogs is continuing Goat, well done

Thanks, should be another positive month, although not quite as good as last month.

[wearthefoxhat]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png
Horses:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.37.10.png

Maybe Memphis''s positive results skewed them a little.

Often find when someone else puts a string of results together, it will impact another. (zero sum game)

One of my dog bots has shown poor performance in the last 3 months, so switched it off, for now. (coincides with your good performances)

[goat68]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png
Horses:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.37.10.png

Maybe Memphis''s positive results skewed them a little.

Often find when someone else puts a string of results together, it will impact another. (zero sum game)

One of my dog bots has shown poor performance in the last 3 months, so switched it off, for now. (coincides with your good performances)

Thanks yeah, although not sure Memphis's performance has ever stopped has it ? !!!

[arch4672]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png
Horses:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.37.10.png

Maybe Memphis''s positive results skewed them a little.

Often find when someone else puts a string of results together, it will impact another. (zero sum game)

One of my dog bots has shown poor performance in the last 3 months, so switched it off, for now. (coincides with your good performances)

I think that's a case of 'availability bias'. There are plenty of other people involved in the greyhound markets (making considerably more money). Why would two people who post their results on this forum be likely to affect your results?

[wearthefoxhat]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png
Horses:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.37.10.png

Maybe Memphis''s positive results skewed them a little.

Often find when someone else puts a string of results together, it will impact another. (zero sum game)

One of my dog bots has shown poor performance in the last 3 months, so switched it off, for now. (coincides with your good performances)

I think that's a case of 'availability bias'. There are plenty of other people involved in the greyhound markets (making considerably more money). Why would two people who post their results on this forum be likely to affect your results?

True. Although, the dog market volume is generally declining a little (see Shaun's post) and then the "profitable players" are left to match off against themselves.

[wearthefoxhat]

So April's been a mixed bag so far, Dogs done very well, although last week have turned "flat" rather odd
Horses troublesome, some bad failed hedges due to exchange not going in-play, and various technical blips.
Dogs:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.36.48.png
Horses:
Screenshot 2022-04-24 at 19.37.10.png

Maybe Memphis''s positive results skewed them a little.

Often find when someone else puts a string of results together, it will impact another. (zero sum game)

One of my dog bots has shown poor performance in the last 3 months, so switched it off, for now. (coincides with your good performances)

Thanks yeah, although not sure Memphis's performance has ever stopped has it ? !!!

Think he dips in dips out. His recent spreadsheets have rekindled his interest.

[ShaunWhite]

There's 00s of people playing on the dogs, you'll never know if you've lost it all to one person or lost £1 to each of them. Or when a strategy fails it could just be that the person you were winning from gets fed up with it and stops. It's a complex and unknowable, but plays right into the hands of the conspiracy theorists. I doubt very much that Memphis making £1 on each of the 120 races a day is even noticeable. If we're all reduced to fighting for a quid it's time to move on.

[Kai]

There's 00s of people playing on the dogs

Doesn't seem like it tbh, the manual boys etc stick out like a sore thumb

Problem with this market structure is too many filler races that take away from the bigger ones, would probably be better for BF to not even open the market for some, to try and get more quality in with bigger gaps. Either way there is a finite level of profit with these micromarkets and you can probably do some rough calculations based on matched volumes and price ranges etc as to how much but all its doing over time is just changing hands and ratios

[ShaunWhite]

There's 00s of people playing on the dogs

Doesn't seem like it tbh, the manual boys etc stick out like a sore thumb

Dogs will always be a tricky one for the exchange so long as "traders" don't want to make an early book. I've said before that your typical dog punter is too busy working to fanny about on Betfair 60s before the off, so if you can't even get £20 on at luchtime you soon stop trying to.

They're popular within automation though, you've got 700+ a day to aim at so the intel builds quickly, 1,400 if you include the place markets. You can learn more about dog markets in a day than you can learn about horse markets in a month. With so many ways to approach markets the key thing is to fail fast and dogs provide that where (uk) horses can't.

[Kai]

Yeah, there is little incentive for manual trading as things stand.

With liquidity decreasing and flow toxicity increasing across the board you can see why people would be moving on