in play laying horses, P&L errors?

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Ryanolifelix
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hello all,

today i layed a horse £10 at odds of 15, the horse lost so the p&l hedge button was showing red -280.

it did this on about 6 races, i checked on racingtv website to see if my selected horse won or lost and every race my selection did not win.

so basically where there should have been a green £10.00, there was a -280 or other figure, -190, -168 and so on for all of those races where it seemed to be showing an error.

anybody know whats going on?
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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 9:24 pm
hello all,

today i layed a horse £10 at odds of 15, the horse lost so the p&l hedge button was showing red -280.

it did this on about 6 races, i checked on racingtv website to see if my selected horse won or lost and every race my selection did not win.

so basically where there should have been a green £10.00, there was a -280 or other figure, -190, -168 and so on for all of those races where it seemed to be showing an error.

anybody know whats going on?
If the layed horse LOST, the P&L should have been showing the £10 minus commission. Or do you mean the lay bet lost?

Confused.

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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 9:24 pm
hello all,

today i layed a horse £10 at odds of 15, the horse lost so the p&l hedge button was showing red -280.

it did this on about 6 races, i checked on racingtv website to see if my selected horse won or lost and every race my selection did not win.

so basically where there should have been a green £10.00, there was a -280 or other figure, -190, -168 and so on for all of those races where it seemed to be showing an error.

anybody know whats going on?
If all of your bets were LAY bets and none of the horses layed went on to win those races, then every lay bet is a winning bet - forget the P&L, what does your Betting Profit & Loss say for today?
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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sat May 15, 2021 9:24 pm
hello all,

today i layed a horse £10 at odds of 15, the horse lost so the p&l hedge button was showing red -280.

it did this on about 6 races, i checked on racingtv website to see if my selected horse won or lost and every race my selection did not win.

so basically where there should have been a green £10.00, there was a -280 or other figure, -190, -168 and so on for all of those races where it seemed to be showing an error.

anybody know whats going on?
Yes at the end of the race the screen will show that you could make a back bet at something like 1.03 against every horse other than the winner where it will show that you could only make a lay bet. If you had to close out the horse that you layed at 15 by backing at 1:03 😢. You don’t of course because you laid a loser but what the screen is showing you is what would happen if you did have to do that.
Ryanolifelix
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i have added a picture of what i mean,

so i layed a horse for £10, the horse lost meaning that i win.

but this hedge button shown -£280 where it should of been green £10 profit.
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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 10:43 am
i have added a picture of what i mean,

so i layed a horse for £10, the horse lost meaning that i win.

but this hedge button shown -£280 where it should of been green £10 profit.
And at the time when it is showing negative 280 what is the "available" back price? I put "available" because it is probably the end of the race and not available.
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gazuty wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 11:32 am
Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 10:43 am
i have added a picture of what i mean,

so i layed a horse for £10, the horse lost meaning that i win.

but this hedge button shown -£280 where it should of been green £10 profit.
And at the time when it is showing negative 280 what is the "available" back price? I put "available" because it is probably the end of the race and not available.
Yes it was at the end of the race
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Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 11:49 am
Yes it was at the end of the race
QED
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Greenup will be messed up if there is a big spread between prices on offer, you shouldnt use it in the first place

if a layed horse goes on to win you cant back it for 1.00 thats why you got the large negative displayed
Ryanolifelix
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gazuty wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 11:54 am
Ryanolifelix wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 11:49 am
Yes it was at the end of the race
QED
Gratias tibi ago
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rik wrote:
Sun May 16, 2021 12:03 pm
Greenup will be messed up if there is a big spread between prices on offer, you shouldnt use it in the first place

if a layed horse goes on to win you cant back it for 1.00 thats why you got the large negative displayed
I wasn't backing it if it lost. The green up hedge button on the ladder was just showing a red figure when normally it shows a green figure.

I think it's something to do with Betfair race listing at the end of the race, sometimes they go a bit weird and fail to completely resolve and they sometimes appear to be showing that the race is still in play.
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....sometimes they go a bit weird and fail to completely resolve and they sometimes appear to be showing that the race is still in play.
A race will still be 'in play' when the race is finished if there is a photo finish.
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Geordie wrote:
Mon May 17, 2021 6:06 am
....sometimes they go a bit weird and fail to completely resolve and they sometimes appear to be showing that the race is still in play.
A race will still be 'in play' when the race is finished if there is a photo finish.
Oh right, I didn't think of that.
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