Probably of interest to the slightly older generation here that were into horses in the early 80s and know of him, Ramsden is on the Simon Nott interview this week, starting with his early days in the city in the 70s and how he made his millions and got into horseracing:
https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/betting ... y-ramsden/
Terry Ramsden interview
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Good shout.Andriy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:34 amProbably of interest to the slightly older generation here that were into horses in the early 80s and know of him, Ramsden is on the Simon Nott interview this week, starting with his early days in the city in the 70s and how he made his millions and got into horseracing:
https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/betting ... y-ramsden/
Interesting character for sure.
Fantastic character. I remember him owning Walsall FC too.
I read an article about him not so long ago. He was pretty pissed off at all his old friends ditching him on his release from prison, and was especially angry at being ignored by his wife and son, Jake. When the jockey club cleared him to own horses again, he bought a 2 year-old and named it Jake the Snake......after his son who had rejected him
I read an article about him not so long ago. He was pretty pissed off at all his old friends ditching him on his release from prison, and was especially angry at being ignored by his wife and son, Jake. When the jockey club cleared him to own horses again, he bought a 2 year-old and named it Jake the Snake......after his son who had rejected him
Wasn't there a 'scandal' in 1995 involving a horse he owned called Top Cees which ran in the 1995 'Swaffam' handcap? There was a court case about it.
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Top Cees ran in the Sangster colours, T.Ramsden knew Sangster well, so maybe there was some sort of collab.Derek27 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:15 pmDidn't know he was the owner but that was the one Kieren Fallon was told "wasn't supposed to win".
If I remember correctly the case was a libel case and Kieren Fallon and Derek Thompson who made opposite statements were forced to stand by their statements and call each other liars. Forgetting about Thompson's lies when he says "...is coming under strong pressure" or "...still has a fighting chance", I know who I'd believe.wearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:54 pmTop Cees ran in the Sangster colours, T.Ramsden knew Sangster well, so maybe there was some sort of collab.
I believe Robert Sangster became owner/part owner after Top Cees won the Chester Cup in the same year '95. Apparently at the time of the Chester Cup win Alan Leonard was actually the owner. There was negative publicity when the horse won the chester cup some people on course even booed. Alan Leonard decided to sell a 50% share in Top Cees and that's when Robert Sangster bought in. As you say the horse did then run in Sangster silks so not sure if Sangster increased his ownership to 100% or it was agreed to use Sangster colours. To confuse things further Timeform states Top Cees owners as Charlton Bloodstock Ltd.wearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:54 pmTop Cees ran in the Sangster colours, T.Ramsden knew Sangster well, so maybe there was some sort of collab.
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Nice one.ANGELS15 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 3:31 pmI believe Robert Sangster became owner/part owner after Top Cees won the Chester Cup in the same year '95. Apparently at the time of the Chester Cup win Alan Leonard was actually the owner. There was negative publicity when the horse won the chester cup some people on course even booed. Alan Leonard decided to sell a 50% share in Top Cees and that's when Robert Sangster bought in. As you say the horse did then run in Sangster silks so not sure if Sangster increased his ownership to 100% or it was agreed to use Sangster colours. To confuse things further Timeform states Top Cees owners as Charlton Bloodstock Ltd.wearthefoxhat wrote: ↑Sat Jul 24, 2021 1:54 pmTop Cees ran in the Sangster colours, T.Ramsden knew Sangster well, so maybe there was some sort of collab.
Just watched both the races mentioned on YT. Commentator said Top Cees has 2 ways of running......
Fond memories of Jack/Lynda Ramsden gambles and Reg Akehurst back in the day.