Leopardstown - 14:00 - Christmas Hurdle - Voler la vedette

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mugsgame
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This is a quote from Barry Orr who tweets as betfairbarry.
He is PR and Horse racing manager for Bf Ireland

"Still investigating in-play market on the Xmas hurdle. Will update once we gain clarity"
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Euler
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I reckon it's an obscure XM issue. When we implemented cross matching we noticed that if we didn't trap errors it could create really odd errors with unusual matches and amounts appearing all over the show. We only knew this because we saw the same issue with dutching many years ago. Maybe Betfair didn't look for the same issue?
PeterLe
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Bloody Hell missed it!

Hey congratulations to anyone who made a packet ! Merry Christmas! :D
sweetybt
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Betfair announcement

The win and place markets on this race are currently suspended.

The markets will remain unsettled while we investigate the in-running betting patterns on this race.

We apologise for the delay.
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CaerMyrddin
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Someone must be really nervous now. If it's a xm error, maybe it can be forced to happen, given the right market circunstances?
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Euler
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I just totted up the lay liability: -

£46,388,411.49
Lagos
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we have not made a penny untill they settle it!

fingers crossed
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Euler
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Lagos wrote:we have not made a penny untill they settle it!

fingers crossed

If it's a Betfair error they will palp it. That is why they shouldn't get involved in their own markets! It's an exchange isn't it?
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andyfuller
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Smart trade here is too short bf shares, if it turns out they are liable it will have a big impact, if not i doubt there will be a surge in their price.

I guess they are on for a good bit from the extra commission and premium charges either way.
andyfuller
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Had it lost would they void it.....
PeterLe
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Did anything strange happen on Betdaq? Just wondering if anyone was arbing across?
sweetybt
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I was wondering that too.

Could have been people or bots backing at 29s on Betfair and laying on Betdaq
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mugsgame
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At the end of the day, if the cross matching works. They are only re distributing bets between runners. They are not "standing" any bets.
hence the 1.04 of Mourad. This was artificially short due to the exaggerated price of VDV. This was definitely XM.
The question is where did the huge number of the lay on VDV come from?
I think BF may have been up to something different to what they tell us
Innertube
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andyfuller wrote:Had it lost would they void it.....
I think we all know the answer to that. So much money at stake I reckon winners should issue a class action if they are not settled. If it is a Betfair error then they will be the counter party. They can't take money from people and then wash their hands when it goes the other way. Doesn't it say in there terms they are the counter party for a number of situations?
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