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Crazyskier
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What on earth happened in the 2.30 Carlisle?

My bot made a few bets totalling less than £50 liability and I supposedly won £14.92, yet Betfair have DEBITED my account by almost £1200! WTH?

Anyone else have this issue - I've never seen anything like it!

Back subtotal: -41.09
Lay subtotal: 55.44
Market subtotal: -1,172.55
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -1,172.55
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So just how do Betfair justify taking nearly £1200 off me for a TOTAL BACK stake of £41.09 and a TOTAL LAY stake of £55.44? The person on the chatbot is utterly useless and suggests it's when I cashed in - yet they have their own stats showing my bets as above... How do I take this further please guys - [email protected] ?

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Crazyskier wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:22 pm
What on earth happened in the 2.30 Carlisle?

My bot made a few bets totalling less than £50 liability and I supposedly won £14.92, yet Betfair have DEBITED my account by almost £1200! WTH?
That P&L makes sense to me whatsoever :?

Must be a bug, surely.
lunswor
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Crazyskier wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:22 pm
What on earth happened in the 2.30 Carlisle?

My bot made a few bets totalling less than £50 liability and I supposedly won £14.92, yet Betfair have DEBITED my account by almost £1200! WTH?

Anyone else have this issue - I've never seen anything like it!

Back subtotal: -41.09
Lay subtotal: 55.44
Market subtotal: -1,172.55
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -1,172.55

WTF.jpg

So just how do Betfair justify taking nearly £1200 off me for a TOTAL BACK stake of £41.09 and a TOTAL LAY stake of £55.44? The person on the chatbot is utterly useless and suggests it's when I cashed in - yet they have their own stats showing my bets as above... How do I take this further please guys - [email protected] ?

CS
The back and lay subtotal is for the 20 bets and market subtotal is for the 179 bets. Average the odds or paginate.
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lunswor wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:44 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:22 pm
What on earth happened in the 2.30 Carlisle?

My bot made a few bets totalling less than £50 liability and I supposedly won £14.92, yet Betfair have DEBITED my account by almost £1200! WTH?

Anyone else have this issue - I've never seen anything like it!

Back subtotal: -41.09
Lay subtotal: 55.44
Market subtotal: -1,172.55
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -1,172.55

WTF.jpg

So just how do Betfair justify taking nearly £1200 off me for a TOTAL BACK stake of £41.09 and a TOTAL LAY stake of £55.44? The person on the chatbot is utterly useless and suggests it's when I cashed in - yet they have their own stats showing my bets as above... How do I take this further please guys - [email protected] ?

CS
The back and lay subtotal is for the 20 bets and market subtotal is for the 179 bets. Average the odds or paginate.
Makes sense - though how the hell did the bot place 179 bets into the market? Betfair chatbot are trying to suggest it's a load of simultaneous bets attempting to green up at the same time that caused a zillion back bets to be entered. Oh dear!

CS
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to75ne
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could you not ask dallas or euler to give your bot a once over (obviously privately) to get their opinion as to whether its your instructions or betfair glitching causing your bot to fire incorrectly?
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Crazyskier wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:48 pm
lunswor wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:44 pm
Crazyskier wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 6:22 pm
What on earth happened in the 2.30 Carlisle?

My bot made a few bets totalling less than £50 liability and I supposedly won £14.92, yet Betfair have DEBITED my account by almost £1200! WTH?

Anyone else have this issue - I've never seen anything like it!

Back subtotal: -41.09
Lay subtotal: 55.44
Market subtotal: -1,172.55
Commission : 0.00
Net Market Total: -1,172.55

WTF.jpg

So just how do Betfair justify taking nearly £1200 off me for a TOTAL BACK stake of £41.09 and a TOTAL LAY stake of £55.44? The person on the chatbot is utterly useless and suggests it's when I cashed in - yet they have their own stats showing my bets as above... How do I take this further please guys - [email protected] ?

CS
The back and lay subtotal is for the 20 bets and market subtotal is for the 179 bets. Average the odds or paginate.
Makes sense - though how the hell did the bot place 179 bets into the market? Betfair chatbot are trying to suggest it's a load of simultaneous bets attempting to green up at the same time that caused a zillion back bets to be entered. Oh dear!

CS

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Can you check the BA Guardian rules logs ?
stueytrader
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Backers of Big Time Maybe in first at Brighton must have been happy. Looked filthy and very fast drift before off too.
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Anyone trade that one (backing or laying)?
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Naffman
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18/1 NR given a 24.5% reduction factor, no wonder the exchange is dying
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A 2 runner hunter chase, even if they are closely matched in price

How Unappetizing!
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Naffman wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
18/1 NR given a 24.5% reduction factor, no wonder the exchange is dying
Yes glad someone else spotted that. Cost me a few quid. How can Betfair do this?
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brianflynn21 wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 2:29 pm
Naffman wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 2:13 pm
18/1 NR given a 24.5% reduction factor, no wonder the exchange is dying
Yes glad someone else spotted that. Cost me a few quid. How can Betfair do this?
Yeah it’s shocking really, the fav drifted from about 2.3 to 2.7+ almost as if someone knew they’d take that much out of an outsider.

I doubt you’d see that big of a difference on a low liquidity race overseas
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