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Anbell
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Euler wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:54 am
Derek27 wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:33 am
Terrible fill rates for Randwick!
NSW courses have been much worse recently.
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
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Euler
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Anbell wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
What does that involve?
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gazuty
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Euler wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:14 am
Anbell wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
What does that involve?
Changes to commission rebate structure.
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ShaunWhite
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:51 am
Euler wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:14 am
Anbell wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
What does that involve?
Changes to commission rebate structure.
And unless I've misunderstood, a change that affects UK customers is the introduction of TC on non-thoroughbreds (or certainly an increase to 10% commission)? I used to bot the NSW pace and trots but now I'm not doing any NSW at all now except for the greys. I'm finding it simpler to just exclude markets that charge 10%.
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ShaunWhite
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Euler wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:14 am
Anbell wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
What does that involve?
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Anbell
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Euler wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 11:14 am
Anbell wrote:
Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:11 am
I think the new VIP program is effective since the 1st week of March. I wonder if that corresponds.
What does that involve?
Basically a reduction in commission discount / i.e an increase in commission.

e.g. 'platinum' level used to be 50% discount, and is now 40%.
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Derek27
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Three Saturdays without Randwick or Rosehill after tonight. :( :( :(
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Derek27
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Big drift on the fav R1.
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Lutruwita
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Another slogfest in Sydney.
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gazuty
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Aarondewit wrote:
Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:44 am
Another slogfest in Sydney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM7RcgZ1pLE
Lutruwita
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A bad Saturday until last year was $500. Now I can barely reach $200. I don't know why I keep turning up :roll: Wasn't it Einstein that said doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result was insanity. :lol:
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gazuty wrote:
Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:32 am
Aarondewit wrote:
Sat Apr 23, 2022 4:44 am
Another slogfest in Sydney.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM7RcgZ1pLE
NSW has had a tough run. :|
eightbo
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Yooooo what's up my party people.

I require data when horses are declared NR's, as there is a delay between this time and when Betfair remove that runner from the market, and I need to turn off certain bots when there's a risk of Rule 4, but want to keep them on otherwise.

1. Are there any data feeds for this? I appreciate it's a bit obscure but would happily pay for this.

...If this data feed is not possible (thought it might be a bit obscure), then I wonder if there are clues within the market that suggest this could be a possibility, and I would accept a workaround solution where I could turn my automation off based on such clues.

For example last night I noticed the lay book went slightly above 100% on the race in question pre-race, is that a potential signal that BF have turned off crossmatching, and suggests a possible rule 4, or is it just a coincidence I wonder ... ?

2. Are there any other 'clues' which I'm missing which could suggest this?
Anbell
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eightbo wrote:
Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:43 am
Yooooo what's up my party people.

I require data when horses are declared NR's, as there is a delay between this time and when Betfair remove that runner from the market, and I need to turn off certain bots when there's a risk of Rule 4, but want to keep them on otherwise.

1. Are there any data feeds for this? I appreciate it's a bit obscure but would happily pay for this.

...If this data feed is not possible (thought it might be a bit obscure), then I wonder if there are clues within the market that suggest this could be a possibility, and I would accept a workaround solution where I could turn my automation off based on such clues.

For example last night I noticed the lay book went slightly above 100% on the race in question pre-race, is that a potential signal that BF have turned off crossmatching, and suggests a possible rule 4, or is it just a coincidence I wonder ... ?

2. Are there any other 'clues' which I'm missing which could suggest this?
I dont have a good answer for you. You can obviously count the number of runners at all points in time, but that doesnt seem to be exactly what you're after. One work around could be that you run the bots as normal, and if there's a reduction in field size then you try to undo whatever bets you have had (so that the effect would be approximately similar to having turned the bots off earlier.)

Heads up that a large % of non-runners (AU) don't get removed until after the off anyway (except for those that are removed before there's any volume)
Anbell
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It's a bank holiday in AU on Monday - so metro racing at Randwick & Flemington & Ascot
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