Lay the Draw Guardian Automation Bot for Football

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skistef73
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Alternative to" lay the draw",i,m trying to create a bot that backs home/away team
where odds are 2.0 and over (home team) and 3.0 and over (away).
Any time there is goal scored by either team your back bet is in profit after about 100s after market got suspeneded....Here is what i have so far.
-3 rules in total, rule 1 and 2 are identital so i,m not posting 2nd rule,
Rule 1 (home team)
-rule name : back bet on home team
-rule type:place back bet
-1:30min before untill 00:00 play time
-rule to trigger up to 1 times in every 5 sec
-applies to selection in row 1
Parameters:
-best market price
-stake by book% , 10euro (basically i,m dutching t1 and t2 odds with stake of 10e)
-Fill or kill 10 sec,action-"none" under global settings,
Basically identical staff for the second rule which is placing a bet on away team with the only difference that this time :
-rule applies to selection in row 2(away team).
Rule 3 exactly the same as in Peter video:
-green up all slectons(name)
_green up with profit(type)
-ususpended time 100s
-green all profit >0.5 (last 2 items are "under conditions"}
So the issue is that only one bet is placed (on home team ) before kick off.
And i can,t figure out wny.....
Any advice or idea on improvement is greatly appreciated
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Dallas
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skistef73 wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:11 am
Alternative to" lay the draw",i,m trying to create a bot that backs home/away team
where odds are 2.0 and over (home team) and 3.0 and over (away).
Any time there is goal scored by either team your back bet is in profit after about 100s after market got suspeneded....Here is what i have so far.
-3 rules in total, rule 1 and 2 are identital so i,m not posting 2nd rule,
Rule 1 (home team)
-rule name : back bet on home team
-rule type:place back bet
-1:30min before untill 00:00 play time
-rule to trigger up to 1 times in every 5 sec
-applies to selection in row 1
Parameters:
-best market price
-stake by book% , 10euro (basically i,m dutching t1 and t2 odds with stake of 10e)
-Fill or kill 10 sec,action-"none" under global settings,
Basically identical staff for the second rule which is placing a bet on away team with the only difference that this time :
-rule applies to selection in row 2(away team).
Rule 3 exactly the same as in Peter video:
-green up all slectons(name)
_green up with profit(type)
-ususpended time 100s
-green all profit >0.5 (last 2 items are "under conditions"}
So the issue is that only one bet is placed (on home team ) before kick off.
And i can,t figure out wny.....
Any advice or idea on improvement is greatly appreciated
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I assume this is the same one as you pm'ed me about?

From what you've said above there is no reason why your 2nd rule should not trigger, so i'de just go back over it and double check the timing etc.

If you still cant spot anything if you post some screenshots of the settings used ill take a look
shankly84
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I've been using lay the draw on Betfair with mixed results before discovering bet angel. My main problem was letting games run all the way through even at 0-0. Is there a way that I can modify this file so it gets out the trade if my loss reaches a certain figure? Also, is it possible to place the original lay at a set liability rather that a set stake?
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shankly84 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:46 pm
I've been using lay the draw on Betfair with mixed results before discovering bet angel. My main problem was letting games run all the way through even at 0-0. Is there a way that I can modify this file so it gets out the trade if my loss reaches a certain figure? Also, is it possible to place the original lay at a set liability rather that a set stake?
If you go into edit the automation file on the parameters tab you can change the stake from 'fixed' to 'by liability'

Details of how to set up a rule to trigger when a loss value is reached can be found in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488
shankly84
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Hi Dallas. Thank you very much for the reply. I will have a go at this.
shankly84
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Dallas wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:22 pm
shankly84 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:46 pm
I've been using lay the draw on Betfair with mixed results before discovering bet angel. My main problem was letting games run all the way through even at 0-0. Is there a way that I can modify this file so it gets out the trade if my loss reaches a certain figure? Also, is it possible to place the original lay at a set liability rather that a set stake?
If you go into edit the automation file on the parameters tab you can change the stake from 'fixed' to 'by liability'

Details of how to set up a rule to trigger when a loss value is reached can be found in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488
Hi Dallas. Sorry to bother you again. I read the above thread and tried editing the file. I did as it said and set the conditions tab to green all profit, less than -£10. I set this to trigger 30 seconds into the match. I'm not actually sure what happened but something triggered after kick off that seemed to place more money onto the draw. Do you think if I set the green all profit to is equal to -£10 this may help?
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shankly84 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:15 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:22 pm
shankly84 wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:46 pm
I've been using lay the draw on Betfair with mixed results before discovering bet angel. My main problem was letting games run all the way through even at 0-0. Is there a way that I can modify this file so it gets out the trade if my loss reaches a certain figure? Also, is it possible to place the original lay at a set liability rather that a set stake?
If you go into edit the automation file on the parameters tab you can change the stake from 'fixed' to 'by liability'

Details of how to set up a rule to trigger when a loss value is reached can be found in this thread
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=11488
Hi Dallas. Sorry to bother you again. I read the above thread and tried editing the file. I did as it said and set the conditions tab to green all profit, less than -£10. I set this to trigger 30 seconds into the match. I'm not actually sure what happened but something triggered after kick off that seemed to place more money onto the draw. Do you think if I set the green all profit to is equal to -£10 this may help?
It will of been because the majority of bets cancel at KO, 30secs into the match the market will still be reforming (big gaps between prices).
If your going to arm it this early your best adding the following condition
'unsuspended time condition'
is greater than 60secs (or thereabouts)

That will ensure enough time passes after a market is unsuspended for it to of reformed
peep999
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Hi Dallas,

Please could you help me with a couple of additional rules/conditions.

I've downloaded your file and have it running. I would like to set it so:
- it will only lay the 10gbp bet, if the odds of a draw are <5.0 1min before kick off
- cash out after goal scored as long as profit is >2gbp
- stop loss at 75mins if 0-0

i'm struggling to work out what commands to use despite reading the forum
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peep999 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:37 pm
Hi Dallas,

Please could you help me with a couple of additional rules/conditions.

I've downloaded your file and have it running. I would like to set it so:
- it will only lay the 10gbp bet, if the odds of a draw are <5.0 1min before kick off
- cash out after goal scored as long as profit is >2gbp
- stop loss at 75mins if 0-0

i'm struggling to work out what commands to use despite reading the forum
"- it will only lay the 10gbp bet, if the odds of a draw are <5.0 1min before kick off"

This is done using a fixed odds condition
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/fix ... 3D&mw=MzIw#

"cash out after goal scored as long as profit is >2gbp"

The existing green up just needs the profit condition change from >£0 to >£2

"stop loss at 75mins if 0-0"

Add another green up rule without any conditions but on the 'General' tab arm it for
in-play 01:30:00 mins after start
to 01:31:00 mins after start

That will do it
peep999
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Thanks so much!

Is there also a condition to only lay the bet if there is a minimum volume?

Are there any other conditions you suggest are good additions for the lay the bet strat?

Thanks again :)
peep999
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I think I worked out the volume condition:

On the lay before kick off bet
Condition - > volume condition -> volume of the market > x

Is that correct?

I increased the time after first goal score to 300s and have had some matched where the team have scored two in quick succession. Is there any way to set a rule so that it will not attempt to green if scoreline is 2-0 to either team?

thanks
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Dallas
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peep999 wrote:
Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:37 pm
I think I worked out the volume condition:

On the lay before kick off bet
Condition - > volume condition -> volume of the market > x

Is that correct?

I increased the time after first goal score to 300s and have had some matched where the team have scored two in quick succession. Is there any way to set a rule so that it will not attempt to green if scoreline is 2-0 to either team?

thanks
Yes to the volume condition

For the 2-0 part if you duplicate the green up rule (click the icon of two green arrows) then change the rule type of the new rule to a 'set/modify signal' and on the signal tab use increment signal on market (arm it to trigger twice)

Then on the green up rule remove the historical relative odds condition and add a 'signal value condition'
is the signal value
named (whatever you called it above)
equal to 1

that will do it for you
peep999
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Hi Again,

I couldn't quite follow this part of your instructions:

Then on the green up rule remove the historical relative odds condition and add a 'signal value condition'
is the signal value
named (whatever you called it above)
equal to 1

I don't have any rule with historical relative odds?

Two other additions I would like to add - one is regarding the lay bet, I currently have <5, can I add another rule greater than 3? And this will pick up odds 3.01 to 4.99 ?

How do I also check a second market of correct score 0-0, where odds are > x ?

Thanks again for your assist, it's really appreciate and apologies for so many questions.

Regards
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Dallas
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Ignore the part about removing the historical relative odds condition

So just ust duplicate the green goal rule and change one to a 'Set/modify signal' rule type and on the signal tab use increment signal on market (arm it to trigger twice)

and add a 'signal value condition'
is the signal value
named (whatever you called it above)
equal to 1

Yes you can add another fixed odds cond to your lay rule to create a range of odds before its able to trigger

To check a 2nd market is more advanced option within automation and needs to be done with 'Stored Values'
you can see some examples in the threads below
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16232
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=17043
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Newbrawn
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Ive been practicing this quite successfully in practice mode however, using it in real mode this morning I came home to find that it had not greened up and I had a big loss from a 1-1 draw. I have only altered the stakes and nothing else. Is it possible that Bet Angel froze and was unable to carry out the automation in full as it seemed slow to respond to my actions on my return? Thanks for any insight....
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