Lay the Draw Guardian Automation Bot for Football

[phunkallstar]

Hi All

A couple of questions on this I'm hoping someone considerably smarter than me can answer!

1) I see you can set the lay bet as % of balance, is it possible to set profits the same way if you're greening up?
2) I've added in a new rule to close all bets if it's 0-0 at 75 mins, basically take the loss on the 0-0 at that point as opposed to letting it run.
Can someone take a look at the attached and let me know if I've got the parameters correct on the final rule and ofcourse if there are any pointers please let me know.
All I'm looking to do is lay the draw at 0-0 after 15 mins then green up at a fixed level based on the original balance pre game, then finally if the game gets to 75 mins, I just want to close all positions and take the loss at that point if it's 0-0.

Cheers
J

[Dallas]

1, yes you could store the value of your balance pre-off (or whenever you wanted), then use that stored value as your green up condition
2, its currently armed to trigger after 16mins, this needs changing to around 01:32:00 if its to trigger around 75mins
3, The green up after a goal rule is only testing the profit is greater than £50, that needs changing to a stored value (then you'll need a stored value rule as per item 1)

[waywyrd]

Hi,

How would you exit if/when the underdog scores, this is my first attempt with football, so I'm not really clued up on how the odds move when the underdog scores the first goal. And exit when the score is 0-0 around 60-70 mins or the draw odds hit say 2.0?

Apologies in advance if this has been answered and I haven't understood or read properly.

Waywyrd.

[phunkallstar]

Cheers Dallas

I’ll have a play with it.

I think for the minute I’ll just lay with a % of balance and just alter the profit rule to a fixed amount but adjust that rule daily/weekly.

I’ll have a play with the exit rule too.

J

[Dallas]

Hi,

How would you exit if/when the underdog scores, this is my first attempt with football, so I'm not really clued up on how the odds move when the underdog scores the first goal. And exit when the score is 0-0 around 60-70 mins or the draw odds hit say 2.0?

Apologies in advance if this has been answered and I haven't understood or read properly.

Waywyrd.

If the dog were to score first the draw odds would shorten further as the market would view the most likely outcome then would be fav equalizing rather than the dog hanging on.

If you wanted to green up in that scenario you'd need three green up rules (or use one green up rule and group your conditions to cover the three scenarios)

One if the dog scores
One if the fav scores
One at 'X' price

To group the condition you'd use the option of 'One or more of the conditions must be true'
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/gro ... tions.html

and add an Historical relative odds condition to test
selections price now
is less than
selections price 65 secs ago
minus 10 ticks

Historical relative odds cond
selections price now
is greater than
selections price 65 secs ago
plus 10 ticks

Fixed Odds Cond
Price is less than 2.0

[wearthefoxhat]

Hi,

How would you exit if/when the underdog scores, this is my first attempt with football, so I'm not really clued up on how the odds move when the underdog scores the first goal. And exit when the score is 0-0 around 60-70 mins or the draw odds hit say 2.0?

Apologies in advance if this has been answered and I haven't understood or read properly.

Waywyrd.

If the dog were to score first the draw odds would shorten further as the market would view the most likely outcome then would be fav equalizing rather than the dog hanging on.

This can be easily forgotten with LTD trading strategies.

[waywyrd]

Thanks Dallas will give that a test run.

[phunkallstar]

Morning All

I’ve been testing a lay the draw strategy but I’ve been caught a couple of times on 0-0 as the automation rule I’d set didn’t trigger.

It was pretty simple.

I just altered the original green up after goal rule, to “close trade on selection” and armed it to trigger automatically after 1H 35M in play.

But no joy

Am I picking the right rule?

Basically I’m redding up for roughly half my original stake to protect the bank.

Is there a simpler automation rule that will just exit?

Cheers

J

[Dallas]

Morning All

I’ve been testing a lay the draw strategy but I’ve been caught a couple of times on 0-0 as the automation rule I’d set didn’t trigger.

It was pretty simple.

I just altered the original green up after goal rule, to “close trade on selection” and armed it to trigger automatically after 1H 35M in play.

But no joy

Am I picking the right rule?

Basically I’m redding up for roughly half my original stake to protect the bank.

Is there a simpler automation rule that will just exit?

Cheers

J

To green up after a specfic time, you just need to add another 'Green all selections' rule or a 'Close trade on selection with greening' rule and arm it for 01:52:00 till 01:54:00
and set it to trigger 3 times re-arming every 15 secs

[phunkallstar]

Cheers Dallas

And if it’s just to close the trade regardless of greening, it’s just “close trade on selection” isn’t it?

J

[Dallas]

Cheers Dallas

And if it’s just to close the trade regardless of greening, it’s just “close trade on selection” isn’t it?

J

Yes, if you don't want to green up then just use then 'close trade on selection' rule

[phunkallstar]

Thanks again Dallas

One final question on greening up.

Is there a parameter you can set based on either % of total bank or % of liability or stake on that particular bet?

I can see you can set fixed amounts but what I’m finding is that if you set the fixed amount, you don’t get a chance to green up with more profit based on when a goal is scored.

For example let’s say it’s scored in the 85th minute, the likely profit would be considerably above a moderate target of let’s say 10/15% of the original liability.

So I’m looking to have the safety of a moderate profit target and the ability to extract as much profit as possible when the situation arises as it’s those moments that add significant profit and they tend to happen regularly due to late goals.

Is it just another greening up rule with a larger fixed £ amount that kicks in after a certain time in play?

So just repeat the green up all selections, adjust the £ and give it a time window?

Cheers

J

Cheers

J

[Dallas]

Thanks again Dallas

One final question on greening up.

Is there a parameter you can set based on either % of total bank or % of liability or stake on that particular bet?

I can see you can set fixed amounts but what I’m finding is that if you set the fixed amount, you don’t get a chance to green up with more profit based on when a goal is scored.

For example let’s say it’s scored in the 85th minute, the likely profit would be considerably above a moderate target of let’s say 10/15% of the original liability.

So I’m looking to have the safety of a moderate profit target and the ability to extract as much profit as possible when the situation arises as it’s those moments that add significant profit and they tend to happen regularly due to late goals.

Is it just another greening up rule with a larger fixed £ amount that kicks in after a certain time in play?

So just repeat the green up all selections, adjust the £ and give it a time window?

Cheers

J

Cheers

J

The profit condition will allow the rule to trigger whenever its above the amount set
So if it was greater than £5

and there was an early and you could green up for £7.50 it would trigger
If there was a late goal and you could then green up for £28.20 it would still trigger

So the same rule will do both unless I've miss understood?

[Teddy101]

Hi,

New to trading. Iv been playing around with the LTD automation. I'm trying to figure out the right rule to do the following:

Lay the draw just before kick off £10 fixed stake
place another bet around 70 minute mark if the draw looks likely and green up with little to no money loss

Is this possible?

Thanks

[Dallas]

Hi,

New to trading. Iv been playing around with the LTD automation. I'm trying to figure out the right rule to do the following:

Lay the draw just before kick off £10 fixed stake
place another bet around 70 minute mark if the draw looks likely and green up with little to no money loss

Is this possible?

Thanks

Its possible to set up but not avoid the loss in the long run

You'd have to place a much much larger back bet and even then you'll still need to wait for it to go a tick or two in your favour before you could green up (and depending on the stake size and market it might take a while to be fully matched and exit - even after the price has moved)

During which time if there's a goal between your back bet and exit you'll have lost way more than your initial liability
So while it will save you from a loss 95% of the time, that 5% the goal comes after backing and before you exit will result in it costing you all any previous profits and then some