Lay the Over 2.5 Goals & Green Up Guardian Automation Bot

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Stoyanoff
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lay over 2.5 goals.baf
lay over 2.5 goals.baf
Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:26 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:56 pm
Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:05 pm


The file you've uploaded here is mine from the OP

Aww sorry I didn't realize I uploaded your file. So this is mine automation now, also when I put that to certain game if i want tot deploy to different game it tells me the file is engaged to the first game I deployed it and might not work for next game. Why is that? lay over 2.5 goals.baf
I'll check the file in the morning soon but regarding using it on multiple games you need to apply the rule to a Betfair row, order of fav etc rather than applying it by name
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Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:58 am
lay over 2.5 goals.baflay over 2.5 goals.baf
Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:26 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:56 pm


Aww sorry I didn't realize I uploaded your file. So this is mine automation now, also when I put that to certain game if i want tot deploy to different game it tells me the file is engaged to the first game I deployed it and might not work for next game. Why is that? lay over 2.5 goals.baf
I'll check the file in the morning soon but regarding using it on multiple games you need to apply the rule to a Betfair row, order of fav etc rather than applying it by name
I just uploaded the file Dallas Would you be abele to check it ? Thnak you in advance
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Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:16 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:58 am
lay over 2.5 goals.baflay over 2.5 goals.baf
Dallas wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:26 pm


I'll check the file in the morning soon but regarding using it on multiple games you need to apply the rule to a Betfair row, order of fav etc rather than applying it by name
I just uploaded the file Dallas Would you be abele to check it ? Thnak you in advance
So the all rules need allying to Betfair row 2 (assuming you want to trade the overs)

The 'until' part of the back bet arm times need changing, all rules need to be armed for at least 1 second otherwise the can't trigger, but it won't harm to give them a few seconds arm time for the times when you have loads of markets in Guardian, so something like 5 secs to 10 secs

Also for the keep all to sometime like 10secs to 15 secs


The trade out if goal scores needs to be armed using 'in-play time from 00:00:59 till 02:00:00
Also the Historical odds is slightly wrong, it needs to be
Selections Lay Price
Now is Less than
Selections Lay Price
65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

The green up rule also needs to use the 'in-play' time rather than 'first rule to trigger'
Stoyanoff
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Dallas wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:31 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:16 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:58 am
lay over 2.5 goals.baflay over 2.5 goals.baf
I just uploaded the file Dallas Would you be abele to check it ? Thnak you in advance
So the all rules need allying to Betfair row 2 (assuming you want to trade the overs)

The 'until' part of the back bet arm times need changing, all rules need to be armed for at least 1 second otherwise the can't trigger, but it won't harm to give them a few seconds arm time for the times when you have loads of markets in Guardian, so something like 5 secs to 10 secs

Also for the keep all to sometime like 10secs to 15 secs


The trade out if goal scores needs to be armed using 'in-play time from 00:00:59 till 02:00:00
Also the Historical odds is slightly wrong, it needs to be
Selections Lay Price
Now is Less than
Selections Lay Price
65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

The green up rule also needs to use the 'in-play' time rather than 'first rule to trigger'
All working now except green up once bet are match and the stop loss. Would you be ok to check where Im going wrong again?
+lay over 2.5 goals.baf
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Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:00 pm
Dallas wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:31 pm
Stoyanoff wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:16 pm

I just uploaded the file Dallas Would you be abele to check it ? Thnak you in advance
So the all rules need allying to Betfair row 2 (assuming you want to trade the overs)

The 'until' part of the back bet arm times need changing, all rules need to be armed for at least 1 second otherwise the can't trigger, but it won't harm to give them a few seconds arm time for the times when you have loads of markets in Guardian, so something like 5 secs to 10 secs

Also for the keep all to sometime like 10secs to 15 secs


The trade out if goal scores needs to be armed using 'in-play time from 00:00:59 till 02:00:00
Also the Historical odds is slightly wrong, it needs to be
Selections Lay Price
Now is Less than
Selections Lay Price
65 secs ago
minus 15 ticks

The green up rule also needs to use the 'in-play' time rather than 'first rule to trigger'
All working now except green up once bet are match and the stop loss. Would you be ok to check where Im going wrong again? +lay over 2.5 goals.baf
Where all four of your back bets matched before HT?

If not you might need to extend the time the green up rule is armed for
Sooty1307
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Hi,

Would someone be able to take a look at my automation file and see what is going wrong with the greening up element?

Basically I want to place a back bet on the under goal market just before kick off, after 10 minutes place a lay bet for the same amount (to remove any risk/liability) and then just after that green up to take profit.

I have a log here where it has layed under 0.5 goals twice and I have won twice. Obviously I don't want that and the win should just have been £0.45

19/11/2022 11:59:15: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on Under 0.5 Goals at 16. Fully matched at 16. Ref: 288158855647
19/11/2022 12:01:35: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/11/2022 12:01:37: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/11/2022 12:01:38: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/11/2022 12:11:28: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on Under 0.5 Goals at 11. Fully matched at 11. Ref: 288160914912
19/11/2022 12:11:58: [G_Auto 1] : Greened up Under 0.5 Goals by Laying 0.45 at 11
19/11/2022 12:12:09: [G_Auto 1] : Greened up Under 0.5 Goals by Laying 0.45 at 11
19/11/2022 12:12:24: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/11/2022 12:12:25: [G_Auto 1] : An error occurred while Greening Up Under 0.5 Goals by Backing 0.47 at 10.5 [stage 1F][1000_0.47]: The entire order has been rejected.
19/11/2022 12:12:25: [G_Auto 1] : An error occurred while Greening Up Under 0.5 Goals by Backing 0.47 at 10.5: The bet has already been taken or lapsed.

I understand that a goal was scored right after my liability was removed, that is fine, I don't mind ending up at £0 but it makes absolutely no sense to me that I then end up losing any money. I was watching Betfair just before the goal went in and had no red on any lines. Any advice?

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Sooty1307 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:25 pm
Hi,

Would someone be able to take a look at my automation file and see what is going wrong with the greening up element?

Basically I want to place a back bet on the under goal market just before kick off, after 10 minutes place a lay bet for the same amount (to remove any risk/liability) and then just after that green up to take profit.

I have a log here where it has layed under 0.5 goals twice and I have won twice. Obviously I don't want that and the win should just have been £0.45

19/11/2022 11:59:15: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Back bet placed on Under 0.5 Goals at 16. Fully matched at 16. Ref: 288158855647
19/11/2022 12:01:35: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/11/2022 12:01:37: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
19/11/2022 12:01:38: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
19/11/2022 12:11:28: [G_Auto 1] : £ 1.00 Lay bet placed on Under 0.5 Goals at 11. Fully matched at 11. Ref: 288160914912
19/11/2022 12:11:58: [G_Auto 1] : Greened up Under 0.5 Goals by Laying 0.45 at 11
19/11/2022 12:12:09: [G_Auto 1] : Greened up Under 0.5 Goals by Laying 0.45 at 11
19/11/2022 12:12:24: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
19/11/2022 12:12:25: [G_Auto 1] : An error occurred while Greening Up Under 0.5 Goals by Backing 0.47 at 10.5 [stage 1F][1000_0.47]: The entire order has been rejected.
19/11/2022 12:12:25: [G_Auto 1] : An error occurred while Greening Up Under 0.5 Goals by Backing 0.47 at 10.5: The bet has already been taken or lapsed.

I understand that a goal was scored right after my liability was removed, that is fine, I don't mind ending up at £0 but it makes absolutely no sense to me that I then end up losing any money. I was watching Betfair just before the goal went in and had no red on any lines. Any advice?

Automation rule attaced. Many thanks
From the BF error messages it looks like you may have been unlucky and the bet was in the process of being matched or been matched just as another goal was scored

Its worth remembering the in-play delay for bets below the min stake are double so depending on the fixture/market you could have a delay of up to 18secs from it being triggered to arriving in the market - so at least a 20sec rearm time of your green up rule may be needed in these fixtures
Sooty1307
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Many thanks, I didn't realise that and expect that is why it fired 2 bets into the market. I will extend the re-arm time.

Also while I have you, would you recommend limiting the number of green up attempts or leaving it as unlimited? Maybe 3 attempts with a 20 second delay would be better?

Thanks again
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Sooty1307 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:36 pm
Many thanks, I didn't realise that and expect that is why it fired 2 bets into the market. I will extend the re-arm time.

Also while I have you, would you recommend limiting the number of green up attempts or leaving it as unlimited? Maybe 3 attempts with a 20 second delay would be better?

Thanks again
I always set mine to between 3 and 5 times
Even if it greens up at the first attempt it will still trigger (if the conditions are met) but no actual bets will be sent as the stake needed would be zero
Sooty1307
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As always, many thanks for the help and advice. This is the reason why this is the best trading software out there, the support and help with questions around usage. Have a good day :)
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Sooty1307 wrote:
Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:43 pm
As always, many thanks for the help and advice. This is the reason why this is the best trading software out there, the support and help with questions around usage. Have a good day :)
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Estsisps1998
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Hi Dallas,

Im new to the Automation side of trading.

I've been looking at the shared automations files but i couldn't find anything similar i could tweak to what i'm looking for and then learn the basics of how to use the files.

I was looking for something similar to.....

Laying the Over 2.5 market after 20 and 30 mins if it's still 0-0 .Then if there's a goal before half time, green up. If still 0-0 at halftime take the loss. Then i can tweak it more after that, home team score, green up, away team score, take out only liability etc.

If there is something similar out there and you could point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
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Estsisps1998 wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:21 am
Hi Dallas,

Im new to the Automation side of trading.

I've been looking at the shared automations files but i couldn't find anything similar i could tweak to what i'm looking for and then learn the basics of how to use the files.

I was looking for something similar to.....

Laying the Over 2.5 market after 20 and 30 mins if it's still 0-0 .Then if there's a goal before half time, green up. If still 0-0 at halftime take the loss. Then i can tweak it more after that, home team score, green up, away team score, take out only liability etc.

If there is something similar out there and you could point me in the right direction that would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.
If you start with the 'Signal Goals Over_under' file from this topic
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12490

Then add a lay bet rule (armed at 00:20:00 till 00:20:30) with a 'Signal Set' condition
to test the signal named 'goal' on the market is NOT set with a value
https://www.betangel.com/user-guide/signal_set_.html

Then add another lay bet rule (armed at 00:30:00 till 00:30:30) with a 'Signal Set' condition
to test the signal named 'goal' is NOT set with a value

Next add a 'Close Trade on Selection with Greening' (armed at 00:00:10 till 00:46:00) with a 'Signal Set' condition
to test the signal named 'goal' on the market is set with a value

Finally another 'Close Trade on Selection with Greening' (armed at 00:47:10 till 00:50:00)

and that will do it
shaneciurleo
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Hey mate, I have been testing this bot out in practice mode and for some reason on some/most games after its green up it goes and backs over 2.5? Could you please help me on this error. Thanks
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shaneciurleo wrote:
Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:25 am
Hey mate, I have been testing this bot out in practice mode and for some reason on some/most games after its green up it goes and backs over 2.5? Could you please help me on this error. Thanks
Have you made any edits to it (no matter how small it may be)?

If not can you post a copy of the log from a match when a back bet has been placed?

There is no back bet rule in the original file so it should never be placing one, except for when greening up
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